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Dwayne Wade's Return

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by yobod, Jan 8, 2007.

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  1. twoface723

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    LOL. D-Wade gets so many calls for him...
     
  2. macalu

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    man, last night was amazing. even on his own home court, Kobe couldn't get any calls against D-wade.
     
  3. macalu

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    agreed.
     
  4. ivanyy2000

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    Without Refs, Miami wouldn't have won the championship last season, period. I don't care how well Wade played, they wouldn't have won the championship without Refs' help. Some of the calls in the finals were beyond ridiculous.

    Miami is becoming my least favorite team. And I hate D-Whistle.
     
  5. Desert Scar

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    Jealous?

    Nodoby gets more weenie calls than Dirk. Wade got his calls, but so did Dirk, who got them taking fadeaways even.
     
  6. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    The reason you don't see Tmac attack more is because he doesn't the calls when he does go in. I've seen Tmac get hammered on a drive w/ contact but gets nothing.

    After one or two attempts like that he gives up (to protect his back) and just goes to jump shooting. Sadly the best way to shut down Tmac is just get physical with him any time he drives in because he won't draw a foul. Then he'll go back to being a jump shooter w/ his streaky jumper.

    I think the Rockets get some lucky break because opposing coaches just send double teams on Tmac when they don't need to. That's when our role players get wide open shots to knock down.
     
  7. macfan

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    Yeah. The Rockets are lucky that Tmac gets doubled :rolleyes:

    He doesn't just get doubled. They devote 4 players to the side of the floor he's in. That's why you see a lot of weak side open shots from Shane and Rafer. He's unstoppable one on one.
     
  8. twoface723

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    I agree.
     
  9. ndnguy85

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    did yall see on TNT they showed a quote from phil jackson bout d-wade traveling on his spin move..like he picks up his pivot foot.
     
  10. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    Its true he's unstoppable when his shot is "on" or driving into the lane. However you see coaches send the immediate double even on nights when he's not driving to the lane and is having a bad shooting night.

    Their not even using Rafer's guy (if he's on the court) to do the double. One would say its obvious coaching to double team the one allstar we have left, but I think we would've lost more games in our current winning streak if opposing teams made tmac by himself beat us and shutting down everyone else.

    Think about it, how often is Howard, Battier, Head, Rafer gonna knock down a shot they have to create on their own. Tmac isn't going to score 70-80 points before his back goes out (as seen last night).
     
  11. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    Err typo.
     
  12. LFE171

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    Tmac's shown his greatness by changing his game from throwing it down to having a good long/mid-range jumper. happened to jordan, happened to tmac, and it'll prolly show wade's greatness if he can adapt his game to his aging body later on down his career.

    yall may hate dwhistle or d-ref or watever name is out there for him, but i think him putting his body on the line every night shows how committed he is to getting those foul calls.
     
  13. tchou

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    Weak point. If I would get the benefit of the call anytime someone on the opposing team breathes in my vicinity, I would put my body on the line every night too.
     
  14. Desert Scar

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    Wade is clearly the best guard in the league. Lots of the best qualities of Nash, AI and Kobe in one package. Note I didn't say all, Wade's range on his J clearly isn't as much as others, but that is really his only weakness.

    If he had a cast like Mavs, Suns, Pistons or Spurs, nobody else would have a chance, fortunately for the rest if the league he has his rag tag group of scrubs for the most part.
     
  15. Turcan5

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    Dirk got way more BS calls in the Mavs/Spurs series. The call against Bowen where Dirk got free throws for just backing into him was ridiculous.

    Wade attacks the basket better than any other guard in the league except AI. He's going to get his share of calls.
     
  16. tigermission1

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    Wade is the best backcourt player in the league. The guy is a fearless warrior, and he's been that way from day one, even before he started getting calls/respect from the refs. If the refs give him 20 free throws a game, should he tell them, "No thanks, I don't want people to call me D-Whistle"?

    You guys are silly as hell, stop the jealousy, this guy is pure old skool and is the toughest player in the league today. If he was on your team you would already be comparing him to Jordan and anointing him as the second coming.

    Wade is a great player, and you should fear him...he's relentless, and he deserves to get to the line as many times as he does, because NO ONE in the entire league plays as physical a game as he does.
     
  17. tigermission1

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    See, that's where his true greatness comes in. He is one of the few players in the league today who actually understands that he should stick with his strengths and maximize his impact. He is becoming a great mid-range shooter, next to Cassell there isn't another player in the league today who makes a concerted effort to shoot the ball closer to the basket instead of falling in love with the three pointer (i.e. McGrady, Kobe, even Lebron a lot of times falls into that trap of taking the easy way out and just shoot a three).

    He harnesses his strengths like no other player of his caliber, he sticks to what works, which is why he's the best guard in the league today (I would rank him and Nash at the top as the best 1 and 2 guards in the league).

    If he had half the talent on the Mavs, Miami would be a terror in this league.

    I can't blame the guy because he's not dirty, he doesn't flop and he lays it out on the court every single minute of every game. His sheer tenacity and determination is just something that I haven't seen since MJ. He doesn't quit and he plays hurt a lot of times.

    He's what's right about this league as far as superstar players are concerned. I wish more of his peers were like him.
     
  18. superfob

    superfob Mommy WOW! I'm a Big Kid now.

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    You can thank Riley for his current quality of teammates or did everyone forget he could be playing with Odom and Butler right now. Instead they got out of weight, out of prime, injured prone Shaq for the one championship run (which they stole from Dallas thanks to D-whistle).

    I don't see a tough guy, but rather a guy who falls down on every drive because he knows he's getting the call at the end.

    I'm not saying he isn't talented, but the league is going to far to try and promote him as the next Jordan. Every game I watch him play, the game becomes a FT contest.
     
  19. kaleidosky

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    I hear that a lot.. but last game I watched, he just played well (against Dallas).

    And man..Jason Williams is back..finally.. ;)

    Odom might still be immature and smoking up without Phil/Kobe, and Butler may not have developed so quickly into an All Star without going into the Wizards running style of play (Butler wasn't all that great in LA). So you can't make so many assumptions on all that..

    plus, since when are you a damn mavs fan? Don't write about people stealing their championship. We all know Dallas and Dirk choked it away..and that's that! =P
     
  20. Desert Scar

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    But at least he had a Jordan-esk run in the playoffs, maybe twice had he not got injured versus Detroit 2 years ago.

    For raising his game and his team in the real season (playoffs) Wade deserves to be compared to Jordan far more than the others guys taughted (sp) as the "next Jordan" like Kobe, Tmac, Lebron......


    Then stop him without fouling him. One season Jordan shot almost 1000FTs and AI shot over 800, don't hear complaints about that.
     

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