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Dunleavy seems desperate for this job

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by finalsbound, May 31, 2003.

  1. SageHare6

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    I think this should be true REGARDLESS of who we hire. Quite frankly, only Phil Jackson, IMHO deserves a 3+ year contract. Anything longer is giving the coach TOO much credit for success that has yet to be earned.

    As far as Mr. Dunleavy's decision tree. In Atlanta, he'll surely get more control over player personnel decisions. Think about it. By season's end, Atlanta had CLEANED HOUSE there. The roster will pretty much have to be built from scratch. To the enterprising coach, that might seem very appealing. Yet given Dunleavy's interest in the Rockets, you have to believe that he's enthused about the Rocket roster and perhaps doesn't care for the "turnaround" challenge facing Atlanta.

    Houston will be on the "national" stage in terms of worldwide interest and playoff buzz for a LONG TIME once we start playing like a playoff team. ONE BILLION people overseas watching Rocket games and memorizing every name on our roster. You'd have to be either 1.a total idiot or 2.highly short-sighted to NOT to want this Rocket job. If Dunleavy gets this opportunity, he'll have the opportunity to do something truly special with a special team. Moreover, he'll have a REAL shot at winning some championships and putting himself in the NBA annals.

    All those other coaches who are chasing the $$$ and the power can have their fun in the Eastern conference.

    :D

    theSAGE
     
  2. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Exactly! Dunleavy WANTS this job. He is publicly saying so. Have we heard Larry Brown be this excited about the Rockets job? No. We haven't heard ONE thing from Brown that says he thinks this is a great job. This is why it makes me wonder if Brown really wanted the job and perhaps why he might go to Detroit. On the otherhand he hasnt said anything about Detroit either. ;)
     
  3. SLA

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    Fine. It looks like we are gonna HAVe to get Dunleavy since no one else is availale.

    But running is good.

    I think we are JUST as athletic as the Nets.

    We can run.

    Yao Ming and Eddie Griffin are our rebounders and quarterbacks.

    They are both good at outlet passes.....

    And Francis and Mobley and Posey are great finishers.....

    Mobley and Francis can both stop and pop or go all the way.

    Posey just goes right to the hoop.

    We can run.

    And half court? Slow down the tempo...calm down...just set up Yao in the post..and work from there...or get Steve to penetrate and do whatever.

    Imagine! A system!

    Dunleavy.......hmmmmmmmmmmm...he's all that's left.
     
  4. Easy

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    Of the 4 conference final teams, half of them are running teams. And of the 2 NBA finals teams, half of them is a running team.

    The two running teams that have been eliminated so far, Dallas and Sacramental, both lost their best players to injuries.

    I don't see that the results are as clear as you claim.
     
  5. Sane

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    Easy,

    If San Antonio wins this year, that means a "slow it down" team has won the championship for the last 5 years, and then Hakeem right?

    The Bulls weren't even exactly "Run N Gun".


    However, I agree with Jeff and HeyDude on this one. We do have an exceptional blend of talent that may allow us to run both offenses whenever the opportunity for each arises.

    However, I find it hard to believe that a new coach WOULDN'T mold this team into one or the other. I don't know how effective 2 identities would be.

    Obviously, I'd love for our fastbreak to improve. However, if it's a toss up between playing like Dallas and playing like San Antonio, I'd go for San Antonio. Points are always easier when going to the big man, ESPECIALLY when you actually have a very good big man (Yao Ming) unlike the Mavs.

    I do believe that Yao and Posey will combine to improve our fastbreak dramatically, but I also hope that we play more under control. Always take the higher % shot, which is usually, dump it down to Yao. I definitely don't want a boneheaded team dumping it down to Yao regardless of situation; that's a given.
     
  6. SLA

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    Definitely would like to be like Spurs.

    We can't be like the Mavs. EVERY SINGLE GUY ON THEIR TEAM CAN SHOOT. On our team....only like 3 guys can shoot!

    We should play similar to the Spurs. They are balanced. They have big men and they have young and energetic guards. GINOBILI!
     
  7. RocketFan85

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    After Brown he is my pick. I think he will do a better job than JVG. I would not not mind if he brouhgt his son too.
     
  8. Uprising

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    Exactly, if we don't get Brown, then I want Dunleavy.
     
  9. MManal

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    I agree with Jeff and Heydude on this one. This team definitely needs to run more. Sane, no one is saying we should become a helter skelter zero organization shot jack on the break team like Dallas. I want a solid blend of running and halfcourt like the Spurs have this yr, Lakers have had in the past, Bulls had in their runs and Rockets had during their two championship runs. What you dont want is the situation the Rockets were in during the Big 3 era following the championship era when the fast break went to total ****. 80% of players were back it in, back it in, back it in, one dimensional garbage.

    The Rockets have most of the personnel to be an effective transition team but they lack someone that can handle effectively in the middle of the break and make intelligent decisions. When Cuttino Mobley receives the ball off a Yao rebound and dribbles in one line completely disregaring anyone on the wings, that is not a good fastbreak. I have seen too many occassions where Mobey or Francis simply take the ball off the outlet and completely ignore anyone running the wing, thus its either on offense foul or they score on their own. I honestly do not remember the last time I have been the Rockets run a proper textbook fastbreak. Thus, if the Rockets are going to be a good transition team, they absolutely need a player that is a good decision maker on the break. This is another reason why we keep coming back to the need for a savvy playmaker on offense.
     
  10. gr8-1

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    I could live with Dunleavy. He may install an offense.
     
  11. cson

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    "Mike Dunleavy was gutsy ...gave 110 percent....a true tough competitor." Rudy Tomjanovich in A Rocket At Heart 1997
     
  12. giddyup

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    Can you say Showtime? ... i.e. Magic and Kareem.

    Running gives you easy baskets. If not you set up for your halfcourt offense with even more time still on the shot clock and your big man Jabbar/Ming loping downcourt for halfcourt offense.

    Sounds perfect...
     
  13. Sane

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    I agree with all of you.

    My point was that I don't want to be the Mavs, who are NOTHING but run n gun.

    I think Yao and Posey could start a brilliant fastbreaking trend, but someone has to come in adn teach our guards how to run a real fastbreak, OR, we can get new guards, lol.
     
  14. crash5179

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    As much as Sac likes to run they have an outstanding half court offense with Webber and Divacs as terrific distributors and finishers.

    The Mavs have no interior threat on the offensive end to run a balanced half court game. Can you imagine them with Yao Ming?

    The Rockets have a great mix of personnel to be a great fast break team and also a great half court team.

    Dunleavy is the perfect fit IMO if Brown does in fact sign with Detroit. Not to mention that he coached Sabonis who may be the best passing big man of all time.
     
  15. JasonDurbin32

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    Who is Mike Dunleavy?
    :D
     
  16. ROXTXIA

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    If they really want Dunleavy, then just hire the guy. But Cuttino has to go, and we need a different player at power forward.

    Steve and Cuttino together = No Fastbreak.
     
  17. MManal

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    Agreed 100%. I have nothing against Dunleavy, I just think the guy is not going to be able to develop this young team. The guards didnt listen to Rudy and now they are going to listen to someone with essentially the same personality? If the front office is willing to acquire some solid veteran talent in the backcourt along with subtracting Cuttino and acquire a tough veteran PF, then I may be more open to the idea. This team as is tho will be the same undisciplined bunch and will be stuck in mediocrity under Dunleavy.
     
  18. Sane

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    I'd love to get Rasheed Wallace and Jeff McInnis in one deal. Those guys would really complete our team.

    I'm willing to offer any combination of the following players:

    Rice
    Mobley
    Griffin
    Probably Boki
    MoT (but they wouldn't want him)
    Posey (if we get a SF in return, even Patterson)
    Cato


    McInnis is the idal PG for this team, he's textbook material. Rasheed Wallace would be that 3rd star we need, and he has the ability to run or play in the post. His temper has improved TONS under Cheeks, but I worry about whether it would regress under former coachMike Dunleavy (if he were to be hired).

    Anyhoo, this sounds damn good to me:

    Yao Ming
    Rasheed Wallace
    James Posey
    Steve Francis
    Jeff McInnis

    We can pass Jeff Mcinnis as a throw in, since he basically never plays for them, and has an expiring contract. They also have Antonio Daniels and Damon Stoudamire playing the point. The deal would basically be to bring Rasheed Wallace here. I think that, with the emergence of Zach Randolph, along with their hopes of giving Qyntel Woods more time next season, we can strike a deal that would basically clear some room to offer Randolph an extension, and make the team a bit younger.

    Seems it would have to be a 3-way deal though. Maybe we can involve the Bulls somehow. Who knows.
     
  19. Sane

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    I'd like your comments on something like this for the Rockets plz:

    Rockets trade:

    EG
    Rice
    Moochie
    Mobley

    Houston gets:

    Jeff McInnis
    Rasheed Wallace

    Blazers trade:

    Derek Anderson
    Bonzi Wells
    Jeff McInnis
    Rasheed Wallace

    Blazers get:

    Moochie Norris
    Glen Rice
    Eddie Griffin
    Donyell Marshall
    Cuttino Mobley
    Jalen Rose

    Bulls trade:

    Jalen Rose
    Donyell Marshall

    Bulls get:

    Derek Anderson
    Bonzi Wells



    Thoughts?
     
  20. CrazyJoeDavola

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    Sane,

    Trading Moochie for McGinnis is a lateral move. Neither one is better than the other.

    EG and Mobley for Wallace is too much to give up for my liking. I would like to give EG one more year and if we have to give up Mobley, Id rather have a decent veteran SG in return.

    Plus the fact that Wallace is a real wack job. Not sure if I wan't him on my team.
     

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