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Dumb Things Americans Believe

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by rocketsjudoka, Aug 25, 2010.

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  1. rocketsjudoka

    rocketsjudoka Member

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    I don't want this turn into a Creationism vs. Evolution Debate but it looks like its headed that way.

    As has been brought up here many times I think it depends on what aspect you believe in Creationism. I think if you believed the Earth formed in six literal days and is only 6,000 years old honestly I would question your knowledge base. If you believe that there are problems with Evolution so that some sort of Creator played a role, I don't necessarily agree with that but I don't think that is ignorance just a difference in interpretation.

    Honestly there are some people who support Intelligent Design who are more knowledgeable about things like the fossil record than many who support Evolution.
     
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    creator and creationism are different ideas.
     
  3. MadMax

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    I certainly don't think evolution is a load of crap. I simply don't understand macro-evolution.
     
  4. MadMax

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    ahhh..i see...you're calling the creationism argument the one about the creation of life...and specifically human life on earth.

    i'm reading it broader...thinking about the universe itself.

    i didn't mean to take the thread that direction...i'll stop.
     
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    It's like the Grand Canyon over a long period of time.
     
  6. Deji McGever

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    Yes, Israel. You have powerful political parties like Shas, whose members are all ultra-Orthodox and boast about having little knowledge of the secular world because it would be corrupting their lily-white spirituality.

    Thier leader for example, Eli Yishai has been a deputy prime minister and has held cabinet posts where he has used his power to needlessly alienate the Vatican, blame foreigners for the spread of disease, and advocate deporting children who were born here because their parents aren't Jewish.

    He's polarizing, but he's the head of the third largest political party in Israel, and is about as connected to reality as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. His followers are proud of his stupidity, because it's proof that he's so pious.
     
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    I call BS, there is no way half of those are true.
     
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    edited
     
    #28 MadMax, Aug 26, 2010
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    I think you meant "Sorry Invisible".

    Anyway at the risk of rehashing the Evolution vs. ID / Creationism debates. I don't think anyone fully understands Evolution but based upon the evidence there is a strong likelyhood that that is how speciation came about. Even Evolutionary scientists will admit there are large gaps in our understanding but that is the nature of science.
     
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    ....And the thread will now suck.
     
  11. MadMax

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    no, i meant you...because i said i'd stop. and even rhad thinks i should have..so i will.
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    It sucked the minute the op hit "Enter"

    DD
     
  13. rocketsjudoka

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    Sure blame it on me. :p
     
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    It's simple. Darwin observed different species of finches that apparently came from the same species of finch, and extrapolated wildly. Most of biology since has been trying to prove that extrapolation.
     
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    I think it all boils down to Madden-Julian oscillation.
     
  16. MadMax

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    when does it not, friend? when does it not?
     
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    I don't know what ignoramus means, so I looked it up on Google. Are you saying Iran has a ignorant lawyer as it's president?! :mad:
     
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    This is the most salient point in this thread, I think, at least before it devolved into a discussion about evolution (again).

    What makes American stupidity so meaningful, to me, is that Americans seem to think they're smarter somehow. They think because their country is more advanced and has a bigger military that they are somehow defaulted with higher intelligence. Because of this, they tend to refuse seeing how stupid they really are (Dunning-Kruger, yet again). American arrogance combined with American stupidity is what makes it more significant than other countries, I think.
     
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    If I step on a crack I beak my mother's back.
     
  20. ima_drummer2k

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    Ironically, the dumb thing about this article is that the author assumes that if 18% of the country believes something, that means most of the country believes it.
     

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