Dude beats women in swimming update: dude beats girl in Olympics boxing in 46 seconds

@DFWRocket





The world will look back at this period in history at one where woke insanity ruled, and people will shake their heads.

 

The more they make this a public spectacle the more likely they are just pushing culture wars buttons.

In a real life scenario where parties were sincere and not corrupt, they would do press statements, not make these spectacle conferences.

This is something you are going to have to accept:
An entity outside the IBA has to corroborate. That's the only way a claim can be credible at this point.

 

https://olympics.com/ioc/news/joint-paris-2024-boxing-unit-ioc-statement

From this is sounds like the IOC is saying the following:

• The IBA are not recognized and we do not count them as a legitimate governing body
  
• IOC boxing is being operated on the same regulatory standard as in the past (passports... which is objectively stupid)
• Boxing as a sport has to form a new international regulating body otherwise it risks being excluded in future Olympiads

If they think the IBA are corrupt or shitty or whatever and don't care what they have to say, that's one thing, but it feels like this situation was inevitable given how the IOC standards are set now.

 

If social media algorithms didn't exist, no one would think the need for anything else beyond passports for gender confirmation would be enough.

Culture wars brain rot has made the perception of fringe anecdotes into the status quo norm to where millions of idiots do witch hunts on every slightly but h female as a secret trans.


Before culture wars brain rotz your birth gender the country designated you with and hormone testing to make sure they didn't dope was all that was needed and all that should be needed without the social media algorithm culture wars brain rot existing.

 

All this says is that a blood test was given and showed she was born (in his opinion) a male. Although with intersex people, they are most often classified according to their phenotype, not genotype. Which would list Khelif as a female. He also suggested that all she did was change her passport to reflect being a female. But of course we know that was not the case and actually could not happen in Algeria anyway.

Of course, as I've posted a few times already - If Imane Khelif does have DSD, then the IOC already has hormone level restrictions in place to ensure that women with DSD do not have a competitive edge over those without DSD.

This is not a new issue in sports and there is precedent in this case. We're only hearing about it today because the current right wing obsession and outrage over trans people originally pushed the controversy.

of course there are different forms of DSD and some come with no genetic competitive advantage at all - which is why the IOC and most major sports organizations quit using genetic testing by the end of the 90s (except for the above mentioned IBA)


For instance -
Maria Martinez-Patino knows the issue firsthand. A world-class athlete, she was raised and looked like a normal female and even received the needed “certificate of feminity” to participate in the 1983 World Track and Field Championships in Helsinki, Finland.

In 1985 at the World University Games in Kobe, Japan, her test came back with an XY and she was not allowed to compete. Martinez-Patino had androgen insensitivity, meaning she didn’t respond to testosterone. That meant she also didn’t have a competitive advantage from having an XY chromosome.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/raised-female-genes-say-xy-flna1c9441901


Also brought up in this article is the issue of South African track star Caster Semenya.

Unless she took some illicit substance, Semenya is a female with a birth defect, simple as that, said Dr. Myron Genel, a professor emeritus of pediatrics at Yale University. He was part of a special panel of experts convened by the International Association of Athletics Federations in 1990 that helped end much, but not all, genetic gender testing.

The concern that women with XY chromosomes have a competitive advantage “is malarkey. We don’t segregate athletes by height,” said Genel, speaking from an international endocrinology conference in New York that has sessions on intersex issues.

Dr. Joe Leigh Simpson, past president of the American College of Medical Genetics and a member of the IAAF panel, agreed: “Any elite athlete ... has a competitive advantage, or otherwise they wouldn’t be an elite athlete.”

 

Caster Semenya fathered a child.

 

The couple have children via artificial insemination. And in Casters own words.." ..contrary to what many people think, I do not produce sperm. I can't biologically contribute to making new life". - From her book "The Race To Be Myself"

 

yeah. no.

 

It does seem like the solution would be to put them on hormone restricting drugs if they are showing higher testosterone.

 

IOC claims higher testerone, but I haven't see anything that suggests there was some kind of genetic test which showed she had x-y chromosomes. Should also be noted the IOC is a banned boxing federation (mainly Russian). So yeah, not suspect at all.

I mean if the Olympic committee tested and cleared her, why the doubt without evidence? Furthermore there are many women that have higher levels of testosterone naturally. Unfortunate

 

everything in this post is wrong

 

You’re mixing up the IBC with the IOC. But yes at the moment the IBC is making the claim but haven’t seen independent verification. Since they are two different organizations and the IOC doesn’t recognize the IBC they aren’t bound by each others rules or interpretation.

We have had similar issues between the International Judo Federation (IJF) and the IOC. The IOc recognizes the IJF but they still have disputes and it sounds like every other sports federation does too.

Also there have been accusations that in Olympics Judo there are trans athletes competing. These accusations seem base on only on appearance and I’ve seen no actual evidence that Judoka like Mexico’s Awita Alcaraz have changed their gender or were born with DSD.

 

I stand with Fchowd and the passport.