[Drugs] mar1juana may increase psychosis risk, analysis says

That would be a useful analogy if that's the type of study that was done, but it wasn't. If a study was done that showed the depressed people ate an unusual amount of chocolate before the period of depression and had other similar tracking tendencies, then that might make the analogy work a little better.

Zammit and colleagues from the University of Bristol, Imperial College and Cambridge University examined 35 studies that tracked tens of thousands of people for periods ranging from one year to 27 years to examine the effect of mar1juana on mental health.

They looked for psychotic illnesses as well as cognitive disorders including delusions and hallucinations, bipolar disorder, depression, anxiety, neuroses and suicidal tendencies.

They found that people who used mar1juana had roughly a 40 percent higher chance of developing a psychotic disorder later in life. The overall risk remains very low.

This essentially suggests a reasonably possible but not 100% definite link, which is exactly what the article suggests.

 

Obviously, you've never met any, or live a very sheltered life. With all due respect.




D&D. Impeach Bush and Cheney.

 

You must not have known many.

 

You have never been in Amsterdam i suppose? Or any other dutch city

 

I have, many times, and I have many friends who are smokers, and I think they believe it makes them happy and productive, but it doesn't. It's a crutch and a way to avoid dealing with stuff. Sure, there's always the exception to the rule, but think about it, if you're happy, why would you need to smoke pot?

 

I disagree. i know many people who smoke pot, and they are all happy, they wanted to experiment with it. and some liked it and have a lot of fun with friends smoking togheter.

I do not think pot makes people happy, but i think they like the experience it gives them.

I have a question for you, do you believe somebody who likes to drink alcohol cannot be happy? I believe pot is no different from alcohol.

I just want to ad that i do not use any drugs and i also do not drink alcohol at all.

 

so even if they are happy you are believing they arent so you are just believing what you want regardless of the truth.

does pot make you happy? no. but to say potsmokers arent happy because they smoke is just silly.


if you're happy why would you drink? smoke? etc.

liking/wanting to do something that has a bad stigma (mostly just myths for pot) doesnt mean they is some larger issue.

 

im pretty happy.

proportionally speaking, i would say pot smokers are more happy and less stressed out than non-pot smokers.

 

Do you have a link?

He doesn't need a link, he's just stating his opinion.

Well, he states it as if it's some kind of fact, so I assume he got is from somewhere, you dumbass.

There's no need to get personal. If you read (you CAN read, can't you...) the post again, he is CLEARLY just stating his opinion. Reading comprehension is a good thing. You should give it a shot. *******.

Well, he should back it up with something. Why do you even care? I wasn't asking YOU. Why don't you quit stalking me, you sorry sack of ****?

Go **** yourself, douchebag.

Eat ****.

 

I think people who drink often are not happy people. Seriously, anyone who spends a lot of time in bars is in the same boat as someone who smokes pots with some frequency.

 

It's all a matter of perspective I suppose. What you define as happiness and so on. To me, I just think that happy people have no use for drugs since they can relax, be creative, etc...without it. They probably rarely drink alcohol, and they definitely don't smoke tobacco. I mean, I think anyone who smokes tobacco isn't happy either. Anyone who eats a lot, or anyone who does anything self-destructive to their mind or body.

Yeah, that's a lot of people, the vast majority. So perhaps saying pot-smokers aren't happy people really isn't saying that much. And I'm talking about people who rationalize using pot as a crutch, to help them relax, or get through the day, or even to be chill. Anyone who "jones" without something has issues. It's called addiction.

 

mar1juana does not really have the "jones" you are talking about as it is not physically addictive. It creates a psychological dependance in some people, but that is a far cry from addiction to heroin, cocaine, nicotine, or even alcohol.

You might extend your logic to regular coffee drinkers as they have a "crutch" that they use to get moving in the morning.

 

You can say that about any behavior though. Anyone who eats for pleasure than the bare minimum for survival isn't happy. If you have sex for more than just procreation you're not happy.

As for self-destructive behavior your presumption of self-destructive could also encompass anything. Many studies have shown that a moderate amount of alchohal is actually good for you.

I think you need to better define addiction.

 

i couldnt help but think of the movie 'half baked'...when they are in the rehab meeting.

bob saget
"mar1juana is not a drug. I used to suck dick for coke. Now that's an addiction. You ever suck some dick for mar1juana? "

but true. you done "jones" by any means. No more so than someone "jones" for a particular drink, food, movie or whatever

 

Sure, if you smoke pot every six month, i don't think that's what I am talking about here.

I'm talking about habitual users. And I think if you smoke pot everyday or at least every other day you have a serious problem with being addicted. You can be addicted to sex, alcohol, food, or many other things, and if you do them frequently, you have a problem because they become self-destructive. For example, I have a friend that has sex with different women every weekend and he has a need to constantly be validated by different women. He has a lot of sex, and he claims he just loves it, but he is remarkable unhappy in many ways. That's a serious problem.

Whatever mental benefits can come from these drugs should be obtainable from life in other ways. People are trying to fill voids in their lifes with a chemical substance - and it's not going to work but rather lead you down a worse path because you aren't dealing with the real issue. And Yes, if you need to drink coffee every morning to function - you have a problem.

Dependence isn't just physical. I'm particullary speaking about the pyschology of it and from what I seen, most people are not capable of seeing the damage it does upon their lives. Just because you are unaware of it, doesn't mean it's there.

 

We have a much bigger problem of people being addicted to money.

 

im what you would call a "habitual user". ive been smoking pot regularly for about 16 years and during that time i graduated high school, graduated from the university of texas w/ two degree's while working and supporting myself, played in bands and traveled extensively. i now have my own business and work out of my house. infact, right now im in shorts, a t-shirt, barefoot and my dog is sleeping right next to me. im taking a break to cook up a little steak and after that i might have a little toke and go swimming w/ my dog before getting back to work.

ive never caused any problems or gotten in trouble while high. never robbed anyone, raped anyone, killed anyone. never contemplated suicide. i am in general a very happy person w/ a positive mental attitude. i do not live in a van down by the river - i live in central austin in a $300K house.

i also drink about 3 cups of coffee a day.

but you are right...i have a serious problem.

HELP ME!!!

 

my dad smoked pot to calm him...any time he wasn't getting baked he would whip the **** out of me for things like not folding clothes right when I was 5 yrs old. I also know another friend that is addicted to pot and hates that he does it.

Unfortunately there are people that smoke weed and have problems because of it.
I'm sure though that there are people that will live to be 110 yrs old and active like a mo-fo all day till they die and still smoke insanely. Everyone is different
I bet grapes may increase psychosis risk in some people.

 

this thread has jumped the shark.

 

yup. *weed effects people's ability to concentrate on one subject*