I rather spend 5 year 15 dollar rookie CB 6 mil guaranteed who has is very solid than DRob for 5 years 50 million with 23 mil guaranteed who isn't even playing as a top 20 CB
I think it's irrelevent because Dunta is gone unless he feel the team can win. They will sign Owen and DeMeco I'm pretty sure about that but unless the team is looking at a winning record then I can see Dunta signing.
Show Ryans and Daniels the money and offer a reasonable deal for D-Rob, he has never been to a Probowl and is not playing anywhere near that caliber now. If he still wants to be paid let him walk. Reeves and McCain appear to be solid though we need a true #1. In the draft we should be looking for CB, S, C, DT.
Demeco is a no-brainer. We're going to throw at him tons of money and he'll stay. Daniels IMO depends on what the staff thinks of our other TEs. I really can't imagine them giving OD big money because of his position. Not that TEs aren't important. But rather the system and Schaub seems to be able to produce TEs. With Robinson, it's all about the money. If another team will pay him like a pro-bowl CB, then he's gone. If the market isn't that good, then I think the Texans should keep him at a fair contract.
Agreed. With that said, I think we might have found something in Glover Quin. I think DeMeco and OD will get paid and I think Dunta is gonna regret not taking our offer last summer.
It's funny...I was thinking about this the other day. One of the pluses to Owen Daniels in his career has been his durability. The guy stays healthy and hasn't missed too many games so far in his career. That's a good thing, normally. But one of the downsides of that is that we haven't had too many games when we had to rely on Joel Dreesen or any other TE to catch passes. The argument that our system produces the numbers that Owen puts up and not his play would be a lot easier to make if guys like Dreesen were getting big catches when Daniels was hurt. As it is, we don't have any good frame of reference to know how much of OD's stats are system based and how much are talent based. One thing that has always impressed me about Daniels is his ability to "just get open". Nothing about what he does makes me think he is ridiculously fast for his size, but somehow he always gets separation or finds the weak spot on the field. Now, that could be that the plays are drawn up to direct the safeties away from his area, or it could be that he runs such good routes that he gives Schaub the best opportunity to get a pass in there. Up until this season, I typically believe it was the former...but this year I'm starting to believe it is the latter. I think OD really IS that good and I really hope the team doesn't let him go because he expects to get paid like a top 3 TE...because at this stage I think that's what he is.
What's funny is that I went through the exact same thought process about OD. Up until really just last game, I thought that it was the system that was getting him so open (and I actually believe he said as much in a presser), but watching him closely in the last game, it just seems that he's really THAT good at getting open. He's playing like he's definitely in the top 3 TEs in the league right now, and I really think the Texans should pay him what he deserves. To me, it seems if we were talking strictly about level of play, DeMeco and OD would be no-brainers to re-sign. Dunta has been mediocre to ok so far this season, and his demands, as of right now, seem ludicrous. He's not even playing 75% of what he was before his injury. But, he has clearly gotten better as the season has progressed, so I would be willing to give him until the end of the season before I made my final judgment. The addition of Glover Quin has really hurt his bargaining position with the team though, so he must be aware that he is much more disposable now than he was in the off-season. With that being said though, solid CBs don't grow on trees....especially not ones that lay the wood like Dunta does.
Ryans has to be brought back, I can't imagine a situation where that doesn't happen. Daniels is making a case to be a no-brainer as well. I'm not so sure you can just plug in another TE and get this kind of production. If someone has to go then Dunta is the easy choice.
Don't forget that OD is easily the best blocking TE we have as well, making him by far the most complete TE we have. Dreessen or Casey might put up good numbers in the receiving game if you plugged them in, but I think they have a long way to go in order to catch up to OD. Owen tutored with Mark Breuner for years and became a solid blocker. Just another factor to consider. You could argue that Anthony Hill could replace that blocking, but then you are selling the defense based on what TE is in the game. All that being said, I still don't know if we should give OD a Winslow-esque deal.
Demeco Ryans and Owen Daniels seem locked to get paid the money they are due. They are key pieces to both the defense and offense respectively. Honestly, I think Dunta wants to either walk or get paid top 3 money. If that remains his mindset, he is gone. Unless he is willing to come down even past top 3 and top 5 money desires, I don't see us retaining him. A good CB is difficult to get but at this point that pretty much is all Dunta is a good CB, not great or even very good considering he usually gets burnt or at least one interference call a game.
I hope they don't pay "Pay Me Rick." I don't think the Texans need that kind of guy. The Texans have a good collection of good non-diva players, at least from the outside looking in. I like that about them.
What I wonder is...were the Texans to franchise Dunta again, would they be able to trade him? I kind of expected this to be the path the team takes this offseason when Dunta refused to sign his contract until the week before the season opener. Dunta stated he would come back in the preseason if the team agreed to not franchise him. The team wouldn't agree to that. I think they will be forced to use it again or let him walk. But whereas before I had no doubt in my mind that we could find a team willing to trade for him...now I'm not so sure.
what kind of a contract would dunta robinson get right now in free agency? he sure has hell isn't going to get top 5 cb money.. what does he think he's going to get? no team in their right minds would give him that much money.. does he really want to go play in oakland or washington?
I was listening to John McLane this morning on 610 and he brought up something I did not know, if there is NO salary cap in place next offseason then free agency goes from 4-6 years which means DeMeco and OD are stuck however DRob will be a free agent so he should be the priority. I would still try and sign OD and Ryans to long term deals as the Summer goes on.
I agree with this completely. Among the three players listed, DeMeco is arguably the best at his position, and Dunta is the worst (he's still pretty good). But there are probably twice as many linebackers that are 90% as good as DeMeco as there are corners that are 90% as good as Dunta. I, for one, hope that they keep all three.
Based on the way they have played up to this point, you could argue that Quin and Reeves are 90% as good as Dunta. I'm not ready to commit to that statement yet, but the point is Dunta isn't that good so that we should be paying him like a top 5 corner and assuming he's irreplaceable. Not that he would be easy to replace, just saying... Hopefully Quin continues to improve, and we can rely on him and Reeves next year and have a draft pick ready in waiting.
I'm wondering what happened to Moulden. Everytime I hear anything about the guy from practice it is highly positive...but he never seems to get on the field. I got excited about his potential when he was drafted.
He's been hurt (story of his career) with a quad injury. He was active last week but I don't recall seeing him, even on special teams. I'm sure if he were healthy he'd at least get time there since he did so well last year covering punts.
