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Drill Baby, Drill: if only we had

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. Dubious

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    Cause it's easy
    Easy to be proud
    Easy to be cold.

    LOL

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  2. MoonDogg

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    Do you consume goods that are shipped by truck(that's about 70% in the US)? If so, then you might want to worry a bit more.
     
  3. basso

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    i always preferred the version from Captured Live at The Forum.
     
  4. JayZ750

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    Maybe he's an Amazon Prime member, eh! ;) (free shipping)

    In all seriousness, is it really that hard to believe someone might actually be standing up for their principals, and be desirous of a change which would harm them financially but aligns with their beliefs? I don't know his financial position, but perhaps, Reeko really wants to eliminate our dependence on fossil fuels, even if it means he has to double or triple his costs on gas, A/C and heating, shipment of home goods, etc? Maybe he's willing to sacrifice more, even if he already is? Maybe he has kids he's thinking about, and grandkids he envisions living in a better society, and he views such a society as one that doesn't depend on fossil fuels, the harmful effects to the planet it takes to extract them, and the ridiculous political and global impacts acquiring such fossil fuels creates? Maybe he really likes nature?

    I'm just saying.. it's possible, no?
     
  5. basso

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    wouldn't it be wise, should there be some unexpected international event, like, say, turmoil around the strait of hormuz, to have sufficient domestic supply (and supply available from friendly neighbors) to compensate?
     
  6. MoonDogg

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    Most anything is possible. If those are his views, let him state them. Otherwise equating high gas prices with only the increased cost of personal transportation is a bit shortsighted, eh?
     
  7. JayZ750

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    absolutely!
     
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  8. kyle_R

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    I'm lucky on that front, I live less than a mile from work. I also have a Kroger, HEB, Walmart, Target, movie theater, bowling alley, chic fil a all within 2 miles. I think I drove about 2,000 miles give or take June-January.
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    Wouldn't it be wise should there be some unexpected international event, like, say, turmoil around the strait of hormuz, to have alternative means of energy production developed so that we are not dependent on petroleum at all?
     
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  10. Major

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    Last I recall, Bush was able to pass anything he wanted back in those days, thanks to post-9/11 support and control of both the House and the Senate. So yes, you do you know to thank.
     
  11. Dubious

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    Well apparently that's the talking point release from the mothership this week,

    Oil and gas leaders slam Obama

    http://www.chron.com/business/article/Oil-and-gas-leaders-slam-Obama-3354377.php

    But it contains this little disconnect:

    "The Obama administration, unfortunately, has threatened this industry at every turn."

    yet

    " The U.S. has seen a surge in fossil fuel production in recent years, so intense that the nation is considering exporting its natural gas surplus."
     
  12. Bandwagoner

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    How nice for you. I can also afford to drive, and can afford to live close to my work. Some people cannot. Some people are happy to have a job, and cannot change cars or change jobs. Higher gas prices are the most disproportional tax, it doesn't change peoples buying habits that can afford them. SUV sales rose in 2010 and 2011. People like big cars with big engines and they are willing to pay. (if they can afford it)
     
  13. Htownhero

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    Isn't domestic production at a ten year high? Also, (and I'm def not positive about this) but don't we have more active rigs right now then we ever have?

    I'm on my phone right now so I can't look it up. If someone could check this out I'd be grateful.
     
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    Multiple choice question

    Gasoline Prices are rising because:
    A. Instability in Iran and threat of war
    B. Instability in Libya/Nigeria and current war/violence.
    C. We're not drilling enough. But please ignore all the new onshore oil wells being drilled all over the place thanks to $100 oil.
    D. D'OHBAMA!!!! That's why!

    basso chooses D.
     
  15. thadeus

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    CaseyH I am very happy to see you express such concern with the hardships of the daily existence of the poor. It's a nice change.
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    King Urkel of Mombasa got destroyed by those energy leaders at NAPE.
     
  17. Bandwagoner

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    whatever
     
  18. basso

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    used to be $3/gas was evil.

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  19. basso

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    now, it's a part of the plan:

    Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.​
     
  20. bigtexxx

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    nice find

    Obama is simply ignorant on the entire topic of energy.

    He's tried to pick winners and failed (Solyndra). Now he's doing a similar exercise with increasing the subsidy for the Chevy Volt (average income of a Volt owner is $170K, by the way....subsidizing the rich!)

    he's just out of his league.
     

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