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Dream close to signing with Toronto!?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocksMillenium, Jul 19, 2001.

  1. Dallas Rocket

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    Jeff, if your scenario is correct, I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU. It would be mindless to mortgage the near future chasing a Dream (REALLY BAD PUN). We can't get in a game of matching a mindless offer from another team. So it may be time to say so long; and it frees us to make some moves and rebuild the interior offense and defense in next couple of years.
     
  2. 4chuckie

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    So can anyone confirm have the Rockets offered 2 yrs/$20 mil?
    Seems like too much money for him to pass up. I don't know maybe he wants to go to the East and get away from Shaq & the Lakers.
     
  3. chievous minniefield

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    has anyone figured out yet how the raptors could offer this? are they one of the teams not worried about the luxury tax?

    this seems to me to be the worst possible situation for the rockets: another reckless team coming in at the last minute to push the offer way up beyond what is reasonable. either team, if they make this deal [the one for at least 10 mil for multiple years], will regret it.



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  4. ROXRAN

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    scary...anyone else kinda numb about this?

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  5. heypartner

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    The Rockets won't have cap room for Duncan or Pierce. Francis will become a ~$11m cap hit going into that Summer. Now way we have max to spend on Duncan.

    give it up...
     
  6. Baqui99

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    You're damn right we shouldn't sign him for 3 years. Why the hell would Dream want to play till he's 41. I know he thinks he can still play, but come on, who's this guy kidding? Does he want to be remembered like Robert Parish or like the man who dominated the Western Conference in the 90's? Two years is more than enough. If Toronto wants to give him 3 yrs, $15 million then fine. If he wants to go out like a chump, then let him.

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  7. RocksMillenium

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    Fox Sports is reporting that Dream will sign a multi-year contract with Toronto later this week! Pops, Doc Rock, what's going on. . . .

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  8. mc mark

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    Sounds like the work of an agent! [​IMG]


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  9. heypartner

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    Damn, and there is only 1 more day left in this week.
     
  10. RocksMillenium

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    You caught that too crispee! [​IMG] I don't have a clue what that means. Will he sign tomorrow? Saturday!? This is getting weirder and weirder! Negotiations with Dream and Toronto seem to be serious though!

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  11. Sonny

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    I never liked those damn Canadians!!!

    I will freaking boo Dream if he leaves like this [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]

    Too old , Too Old.

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  12. ZRB

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    Please Rockets, anything but this! Don't let him leave! Show Dream the money!

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    I say if Hakeem leaves with no S&T, to give the Rockets something in return (even 1/10th of what Toronto offered in '99), then we should all BOO Hakeem when he returns to Houston!!!!

    You know CD has offered that same 3 year - 15 million deal to keep Hakeem in Houston. Lets face it, if money was not the issue, then Hakeem is weak!!!!! and cannot handle the competition in the west, to make it back to the finals!!!!

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  14. mc mark

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    Before people start trashing Dream, lets see how this plays out shall we?



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  15. ZRB

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    Hakeem will be trashed no matter what happens.

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  16. Jeff

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    I've heard 3 years around $15 million from Toronto and 2 years around the same from Houston. Even $15 million from Houston would jeopardize re-signing some of our guys, but would probably make it possible if you started Taylor around $5.5 per season and gave early bird's to everyone else (cap guys???).

    I honestly believe, and I have nothing but gut telling me this, that this is an ego thing for Hakeem plain and simple.

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  17. Baqui99

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    I think Rudy and CD have offered more money than the Raptors, but Hakeem just wants to play in the East. No Shaq, Duncan, Robinson, Webber, etc... Who knows, he could become the Marc Jackson of the East.

    I predict that around 3 PM tomorrow, the server will crash after Olajuwon signs with Toronto.

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    If Houston's willing to go 2 years I don't see why not 3, especially at a lower per-year contract. We're going to be capped out anyway by that point, so it hardly matters how much Dream's contract is at that point.

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  19. chievous minniefield

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    first off, I agree with jeff; that this is very, very much about hakeem's ego.

    secondly, I'm having to remind myself that this is all the work of dan fegan. he is the one who is floating these reports to fox and whoever else that hakeem "is going" to sign such and such a contract. . . mind you, I don't know that for a fact, but I believe it to be the case. he's floating these reports so that houston will be forced to come with a better offer. he's just being an agent. that's what they do.

    earlier, someone said they hope we don't end up overpaying for hakeem. that is no longer an issue. we will end up overpaying for him if we pay for him at all.

    oh, and I also agree with the poster who posted about DAMNING THOSE CANADIANS.

    first, the damon stoudamire fiasco.
    next, the roger clemens fiasco.
    now, this.

    I have no use for toronto whatsoever. it is my sincere hope that vince carter will leave them because "they showed too much interest in all those other free agents last year [this year]", and that they'll then become the nashville raptors.

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