'Draw Muhammad' Cartoonist Goes Into Hiding After Assassination Threat

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I seriously facepalmed myself after reading this.

And you don't understand why Mathloom has gone on a sarcastic rampage lately in your threads....

Have a great weekend. God bless you bro.

 

Because most cartoons would be offensive in nature. See below. Calling a prophet of God a terrorist is offensive to me as terrorism is a horrible crime. Calling Mary a wh*** is offensive to me as she is mother of a prophet of God. I dunno what else to say.

If someone drew Prophet Mohammad for historical purposes, then I would not take offense at all.

This is offensive to me....

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This is not offensive to me....

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90% of cartoons that would have been drawn on Draw Muhammad Day would be similar to drawing #1.

 

So its not actually depicting Mohammed in illustration that is offensive, but rather the offensive message that may be implied from that illustration.

So why is the rule "Don't draw Mohammed" rather than "Don't slander Mohammed"?

 

The fundamental difference between the civil rights activists and people like ATW are:

1. The oppression of black Americans was a pervasive condition supported by and enforced by government at the state, local and federal level. It was being experienced in the daily life of people: segregation of schools, restrooms, busses, lack of right to vote, lynching, etc. The random death threats are made by random crazy Muslims, not a government with control over the people in the West.

The Jim Crow problem can be solved by legislation.

The "crazy Muslim" problem can only be change by (a) changing the minds of said crazies and make them decide not to be so crazy, or (b) neutralize such crazies by, say, arresting them or killing them. Is ATW trying to accomplish either of the above?


2. In relation to the above, the civil rights activists didn't just go talk about **** that annoy Southerners. They pushed for legislations, they filed law suits that led to Brown vs. Board of Education, thus resulting in comprehensive real change and an end of the Jim Crow system and a substantial reduction in the level of oppression.

People like ATW, as far as I can tell, are not proposing any solution that would lead to a reduction in the level of death threats being made (and carried out) by random crazy Muslims. Has "Draw Muhammaed Day" or whatever it is that ATW does put these people back in their place and make them stop making death threads?

Did the rest of the world not realize there are some bat **** crazy Muslims running around out there before guys like ATW start making noise? Are the rest of the world going to, as a reaction to ATW, now do more than they have done before to put an end to the death threat making of bat **** crazy Muslims?



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What the ATW faction is doing is like flashing gang signs at random Bloods or Crips.

Do we want gangs out of our neighborhood? Sure. Does ATW have the freedom to flash the gang signs? Of course. Would the gang members threatening to shoot ATW (or better yet, actually trying to shoot ATW) bring attention to the violent nature of the gangs? Yes.

Does it do any good? Not unless people didn't know gangs were dangerous before and the police wasn't paying attention to solving (or controlling) the gang problem. Not unless you have a plan after doing it to actually get gangs out of our neighborhood.

If not, you are just flashing gang signs at gang members.

And ATW isn't even doing that. He's flashing gang signs at us, who are presumably not gang members, yapping to us about how gangs are bad (yeah, no ****), and not doing anything that would actually contribute to solve a problem.

This is why many here thinks of ATW as just random annoying twit.

 

lol notice which team is doing that...classy

 

THAT is completely a separate topic. The purpose of not drawing the Prophet was to prevent people from worshipping the prophet. Back then, there were way more people who worshipped statues/idols. Most who initially converted to Islam were "idolers".

Again, if some unbiased history museum was to uncover a legit painting of Prophet Muhammad, then I would be curious to know what he looked like. Not that it would matter but just for historical purposes I would like to know. I will admit that, in the post-9/11 world, there would be some wackos that would call for the burning of that painting.

 

That reason makes no sense in the context. I'm pretty sure the Danish cartoonists nor this lady intended for people to illustrate Mohammed as an act of worship. And, I wonder, is worshipping Mohammed really perceived as such a sin in the Muslim world? If one believes he has to go out of his way not to insult or allow others to insult a man they don't know who lived over a 1000 years ago, isn't that akin to worship? Seems so to me. In which case, who is committing the graver sin?

 

Damn al-Awlaki has turned into some kind of a wackjob. I faintly recall he was respected back in the day then he went into extremist mode and everyone disregarded him.

This is a very unfortunate situation for Molly and she technically didn't do anything "wrong". I feel sorry for her that her life is completely changed now after this incident. It's pretty sad that people can't express themselves the way they want for fear of crazy radicals going after their lives. Sure, she made a bad decision even jokingly bringing up this "Draw Muhammed" day but she didn't realize the sad reality of today's world where crazy radicals will attempt to hunt people down for such silly reasons.

I've said this before but I'll say this again, drawing pictures of Muhammad is forbidden for MUSLIMS to do. This is a rule for the muslims so that they may not go off in tangent and start worshiping him instead of God. This does not apply to people of other faiths. They can do whatever they want. It's very sad and unfortunate that extremists cannot grasp that concept and resort to going into a hate tirade every time anyone does something like this.

Islam is in a very tough time period where the radical voices are being heard way more than they should. I just hope and pray we can get out of this time period with no more harm done and go back to just focusing on a 1-on-1 relationship with God and not forcing any beliefs down peoples throats.

 

The attempted oppression of a key component of western civilization in the form of freedom of speech by "Muslim crazies" is a condition supported by some governments and would-be governments who use fear and intimidation try to to force their will on others. They would have us experience this oppression in our daily lives any time we step out of line with their vision of the world and the way they think things should be.

This is a problem that can be solved by legislation at the national and international level, but people first have to stand up and point out where the problems lie before any changes can be made.

See what I did there?

Those civil rights workers did much more than just file lawsuits, man. They stood up and challenged the idiots making life hell for a group of people, and some of them got killed for it. Fear of provoking a bunch of racist idiots doesn't mean they should have just sat there and taken it because they didn't want to offend anyone.

 

Again, if everyone and their momma wanted to draw the Prophet for non-slander reasons because they wanted to, I would not care at all and nor would many people. I wouldn't participate but I would not take offense at all. In no way can I expect a non-Muslim to follow Islam so they are free to do what they want. But at the same time, I am free to be offended if they slander my religion but am not free to kill/hurt someone cause of my beliefs.

Also, you are now treading into religious beliefs which is mostly subjective and based on perception. It will inherently be harder for you to understand just as how it is very hard for me to understand that God can have a "son". You have a valid point that over-emphasis on non-emphasis is emphasis but I don't see how it applies here. We're not suppose to depict any of the Prophets. Doesn't mean I am worshipping Jesus or Noah or Adam. But if you think that it is a dumb rule in Islam, then feel free not to follow it hehe.

 

Yes but those civil rights workers didn't make racist statements about white people. They didn't draw the Governor of Alabama with horns sticking out of his head. Ghandi's followers didn't go burn books about famous white people. They used peaceful and non-threatening methods. They forced the wackos to see the error of their ways.

 

2nd time: HAAAVVVEEEEE AAAAA NIIIICCCEEEEE WEEEEEEKKKKEEEEENNNDD

 

It's hard to imagine anything less violent than drawing a friggin' cartoon as a form of non-violent protest. As I said earlier, protests are controversial in nature, so someone is going to get pissed off and/or offended. It's kind of the whole point.

Beyond that I'm not sure what your point is.

 

Calm down son....