'Draw Muhammad' Cartoonist Goes Into Hiding After Assassination Threat

B-Bob isn't saying these death threats are deserved. And I think he's confusing this story with the Dutch cartoonist. Sympathy is definitely warranted in this case.

 

Do you mind that radicals like this Imam are hijaking your faith?

Do you consider him a radical?

How should the Muslim community deal with folks like him making death threats?

DD

 

Nothing novel.. Molly knew it would cause this problem so she took it back. This is the unfortunate backlash from that 'mistake', if you can even call it that. I hope she is able to lead a normal life ASAP.

 

I don't follow. All I'm saying is that I think if B-Bob didn't confuse the two stories, he would't have said he has zero sympathy.

And I'm quite certain no one in this thread thinks death threats are deserved. Even if we disagree with others and how they are expressing their views, lets give them a little credit.

 

What is your attitude toward the civil rights of muslims in Germany? You seem pretty mainstream in most other regards. You haven't joined any anti-muslim groups; have you?

 

Yes, it's true. I don't have access to the Imams that are issuing death threats. I have access to you. The Imams also aren't particularly rationale people who would listen anyway. You don't appear to be either, but I hold out hope that you're not quite as irrational as they are.

Yes, it's to change minds that I actually have access to, instead of making anonymous stupid "freedom of speech" threads that put the lives of other people in danger.

Simply put, you knew the consequences of the May 20th day. It was pointed out to you numerous times - you were purposely and intentionally instigating people you knew were extremists and liked making death threats. You did so knowing that you were putting other people's lives at risk - the initial person who created the day had already disavowed it and apologized, as was posted in the thread. Nevertheless, you pushed it and as a result, her life is in danger. Its a terrible result, but it's not surprising and not even unpredictable. You knew what you were doing, and you knew the consequences.

If I know a gang member lives next door, and I send a kid there to instigate him, I absolutely deserve some of the blame if he gets attacked, even though I'm not the one that did the attacking. It's no different here. You knowingly and intentionally participated in the stupidity that resulted in the death threat to her. So yes, you and others that pushed this idea absolutely deserve a portion of the blame.

 

That's not my faith. I'm not Muslim.

I think they should just ignore him. If there's no audience, he can say whatever he wants.

I think she agrees with Major. I don't know whether you are or not.

I do think that the threat would not have been issued if not for the method of revenge which you support. Then again, the death threat would not strengthen or weaken Al Awlaki's personal beliefs, so I would argue that the threat is relatively insignificant when taking Al Awlaki's intentions/beliefs into consideration.

For example, Al Awlaki probably believes that every woman who has sex outside of wedlock should be stoned to death. If I were a Muslim, I would be more concerned with the stoning thing than Molly, who is one person with the US government behind her. Her life, IMO, is not more valuable than, for example, the females in Al Awlaki's neighborhood who want to go out on a date.

Anyways, our energy is better spent shredding apart Al Awlaki's jurisprudence credentials. Similarly, OBL does not hold any position within Islamic jurisprudence and is not authorized to give orders to any Muslims - but very few people know that. I think that kind of discussion is more fruitful than the one taking place here.

 

Molly didn't make the threat, what about the guy who made the threat against her life?

I mean the natural conclusion to the escalation is that someone just kills the Imam.....

Every time an Imam makes a death threat, just have an international hit squad take em.

Seems fair, right?

DD

 

I think you deal with it the way you deal with any death threat.

What would happen to you if you threatened Molly in a magazine?

 

That the person getting death threats should have known better and was wrong to instigate the death threats. That this person put not only themselves in danger, but also the lives of many others. That they share some responsibility for the predicament they are in.

None of that means the death threats were deserved. Also, sympathy is an emotion, not necessarily reason-based. I can believe a victim was wronged while simultaneously not feeling sympathy for them.

 

- I'm not. Do you mind?

- No one is born crazy. Educate the crazies. Support governments/authorities to deal with it appropriately.

- I'm sure she is worried about Islamists, but she very clearly described that there are a group of people who hijacked her thought and distorted it. Anyways, it's unclear what she genuinely ever wanted or meant as her actions changed based on the circumstances.

- The threat is relatively insignificant when taking into consideration the general threat that Al Awlaki poses even when he doesn't say one word publicly. The more important issue is his ideas, not just this one threat IMO. I don't know why you felt the need to say it's significant to her but ok.

 

The girl lives in a fantasy world. She got publicity and probably a little extra job security by mocking another culture. The people in this part of the world have been bombed and exploited back to the stone age, their religion is all they can turn to. Kudos to FBI for helping protect her, but this is less about defending a faith than it is about putting this rich, white, western b**** in her ****ing place.

 

WTF?

Talk about a ****ed up viewpoint.

DD