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[Draftexpress] T-Mac being actively shopped

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by i3artow i3aller, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. abc2007

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    I know you are a loyal fan of Tmac. But, I don't think you need to feel so bad for him. No matter where he will go for next season, he still earn 20+m, even he won't play a single minute on the court. He still can live in a very good live style.

     
  2. tinman

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    Tmac earns more than any freaking player on the Rockets, how many minutes did he play in the playoffs?

    Ray Allen stays healthy and drops 51 points in a playoff game this year.

    How many points did Brent Barry drop?

    Why are you hating on Ray Allen?
     
  3. abc2007

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    I don't know you are kidding, or really cannot follow my logic. In any case, this debate should be over.

     
  4. TheGreat

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    I would do Artest for Allen in a S&T deal. Artest obviously plays great defense

    and gives us some toughness but Ray Allen would be great in this system.

    Even if he's on decline, he can still be really effective in the inside and out

    system just straight up draining threes.
     
  5. HowsMyDriving

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    you do realize that brent was signed to back up tracy before Von Wafer had his miraculous season? and that the guy who ended up playing starting/backup SG (Von) was the 15th man on the bench, and almost didnt make the team?

    so . . . according to your logic, the depth chart at the SG spot at the beginning of last season would have been tracy mcgrady, then an NBDL player that almost didnt make the team. see, that doesnt work if you're a decent GM.

    so again, without the hindsight of knowing that von would become anyone of consequence, who would you have signed for $2m?
     
  6. tinman

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    you blatantly compared Ray Allen to Brent Barry calling them equal cause they 'both good shooters'

    and another person thinks he's like Rafer. I mean one of the worst shooters in the L.

    You can just say, he gets paid too much, but don't insult his game like that.

    I know you are a Yao fan, so what if I compared Yao to Shawn Bradley cause they both have high shooting %?
     
  7. cavevato

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    Where exactly is this documented? How can he play in the best league in the world if that is any where near true? I definetely agree with everything you said about Brent Berry though
     
  8. abc2007

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    So, you expect Barry will be in rotation, and will have solid minutes next season? His biggest value is his expiring contract! But, because of his family tradition, the rockets are probably unable to use it.

     
  9. tinman

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    he should have given you the link

    http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/basketball/knicks/blog/2009/06/tmac_attack.html

    Of course if it does, the Knicks would have to strongly consider re-signing him. Here is where I see the risk, because it's been well-documented that McGrady does not maintain any type of practice or conditioning habits. But it's tantalizing for the Knicks, who are desperate for a star-quality player who can make them a legitimate playoff contender in the East.
     
  10. abc2007

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    I didn't compare the two players, instead, I campare the two events!

     
  11. Strawman

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    I don't see a deal being worked out with the Knicks. I doubt Morey would want anything to do with hughes gross contract.
     
  12. HowsMyDriving

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    because it is also well documented that tracy is one of the most physically gifted basketball players of his time. heh.
     
  13. tinman

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    now you don't even make any sense!

    an event is like the superbowl or a hannah montana concert.
     
  14. abc2007

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    I got that you are not kidding! Since you cannot understand my logic, don't need to reply my post.

     
  15. HowsMyDriving

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    that has nothing to do with the circumstances around his signing. it also does not support your argument that his signing was a mistake.

    in order to prove your point, you need to show me who you would have signed for that money that you could make a fair argument would have done more than Brent did, given the situation our GM was in.

    You are Morey. You have a huge hole at backup SG. You have almost no money to play with. I think Brent was a great signing, and the unexpected progress of our young players, and the overachievement of our team as a whole supports the fact that this team succeeded because of a collective effort.

    for you to say he was a mistake, i think, is completely unfounded and frankly, an indefensible statement given everything our team accomplished.
     
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    Hughes's contract is in its final year. In the proposed deal the Rockets are effectively trading away $22.5M owed for $15.6M owed.
     
  17. Vivid

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    I tried "to be way too smart and failed miserably?" What excuses are you talking about? Did I make an excuse? The guy you responded to said "The current Rocket roster gave the Lakers their toughest series of the playoffs and they did it with physical basketball, suffocating defense and arguably the best chemistry in the league." Is that an excuse? He never said we were better than anyone, just that we gave the best team in the league the best run for their money. That is TRUE. That isn't an excuse nor in anyway does that articulate a notion that we are better than the Magics or Nuggets. What it does say is that we are a good team.

    The Hawks were a good team. They were better than the Pistons this year, a Celtics opponent last year. WHAT?! It is hard to compare teams from different seasons because some years a team just clicks. Cleveland clicked this year and so did the Magics. The Hawks improved over 4 playoff teams last year and beat the Heats this year. They went from being the 8th seeded team to the 4th seeded team in the East. They did this while losing a key playoff contributor in Childress.

    You are trying to scarecrow the subject. Nobody said that the 2008 Hawks are better than the 2008 Lakers just like nobody said 2009 Rockets are better than the 2009 Magics. What they are saying is that the Hawks and Rockets have a bright future having just taken the current champs to 7. To not mess with that core, because whatever core can take a championship caliber team, a team you will probably meet next year in the playoffs, all the way to 7 games, that team is doing something right. That is all anyone is saying. That is all the guy you quoted said. That was all I said when you so graciously quoted me. No excuses. Considerdz ur friez surved.
     
  18. abc2007

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    So, you do know what this thread is about?

    This is the reason why the rockets what to shop tmac! They want to get a good sg return!

     
  19. tinman

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    your romulan logic makes no sense.

    besides, why on earth would boston trade Ray Allen for Tmac?

    #1 Tmac and Paul Pierce play the SAME position
    #2 Doc Rivers wants to keep his job, the last time he had Tmac, they canned him

    Ainge may have been a dirty player back in the day, but he's not that stupid.
     
  20. HowsMyDriving

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    your logic sucks. sorry, but you make no sense.
     

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