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[Draftexpress] T-Mac being actively shopped

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by i3artow i3aller, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. HowsMyDriving

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    i'd just like to highlight the following tidbit for everyone who has been yelling that Tracy is unfairly criticized on this BBS

    "it's been well-documented that McGrady does not maintain any type of practice or conditioning habits."
     
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  2. t_mac1

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    ray allen would be a PERFECT fit for this team.
     
  3. Vivid

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    Yeah, just like that. The same Atlanta team that for the first time in over a decade had their first winning season. The same team that had contract negotiations mess with the team and it's chemistry last summer and lost a major contributor in Childress. The same team that despite this, actually got home court advantage and lost to what many believed to be the best team in the East in the Cavs. Yeah... I hope the Rockets have that kind of improvement on their season and better. That means a minimum ten game improvement over this past season and a WCF showing.

    Your logic doesn't even make sense. Either you are comparing last year's Hawks to this years Lakers or you are saying that last year's Celtics are better than this year's Lakers. You are trying to debunk that type of logic by using that type of logic, which makes for a poor argument on your part and much confusion for any one that tries to make sense of it. Do you even understand how irrational that is? The Lakers didn't have Bynum last year and Ariza and Odom were not nearly as effective as they were this year. The Lakers improved. I mean let me paint you a picture- say we make it to the WCF next year and lose to the Blazers and the Blazers go on to lose to the Magics in the Finals, is it not conceivable to believe we could have beaten the Magics? Say the Magics played the Cavs in the ECF and they took them to 7 games. Would it make sense for someone on a Cleveland Forum to say "man look at the Rockets, they took the Lakers to 7 games last year, they iz notz az goodz az Magicz!" Not to say what you are saying is false or even potentially false, but that you are making fun of an "irrational" statement by making an even more irrational claim.

    The guy said that we gave the Lakers their toughest series. That is true. There is no fallacy in that. In the West we are probably the best team (maybe the Blazers) to combat them. I see nothing wrong with recognizing this. He never said we were better without Yao, so don't put words in his mouth. I think Clutch's analysis of Tmac makes it clear that their is at least a strong argument that we are a better team without him.

    Oh, and those lowly Hawks held the Lakers to their lowest scoring output of the season. That and they are undefeated against Lakers the last two seasons and along with the Lakers, they were the last team to be undefeated at the start of this season. All this after they took the Celtics to 7 games and they were only one seed behind the eventual EC champions. Yeah, it may not be simple math. We can't just say "we took them to 7" so that makes us the 2nd best team. That doesn't make it an irrelevant statement. If the Hawks are any indication, this is a good thing for the Rockets, next season will be even better. Sorry, your internet smart ass act for the lose. You want some super sized fail fries with that?

    -V
     
  4. worzel gummidge

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    The first line from the Newsday article suggests perhaps the writers from the major news outlets were reluctant to break this news. So while the rumor might be floating around the league it mightn't be that credible.
     
  5. herro

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    Noooooooooooooo not the NY deal. I don't even want the 8 pick.

    Would we really take on a contract like Eddy Curry so we can pick the other Curry?

    I think we'll get a deal through for Tracy with SOMEONE, but I'm not sure the Knicks are the team.
     
  6. t_mac1

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    tracy has said that he plans to play when the season starts from all his recent interviews, and even morey was "cautiously" optimistic that could happen. it could or it could not. but 20-30 games seem too much.

    i think what he said is we will know more about the timetable for his return at the end of this month since tracy updates us on his rehab monthly.
     
  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Ok, OUT the window goes any credibility right there !!

    DD
     
  8. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Yes, being right is so important to you, no, it's not the most important thing, it's the only thing! haha. Dude, if he gets traded you will probably put up a thread, "Dada was right!!!!" and if he doesn't, you won't admit you were wrong anyway, you'll just say it was your opinion so how can you be wrong?

    :rolleyes:
     
  9. saleem

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    I wanted him too. He played great last year and I got excited with his 51 point game in the playoffs, but he had a number of bad games and ended up doing rather poorly.He would be a great fit if he were at his peak,I'm reluctant to pick him up now.
     
  10. TheGreat

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    Would you do a S&T, Ron Artest for Ray Allen?
     
  11. jump shooter

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    No offense, but Tracy's has said alot of things and I just don't have any faith in his health as a basketball player anymore (especially at 30yrs of age). I don't want to see the rockets go into the season with uncertainty in who or who isn't going to be there. If I were assured he could play 70 games this season then I wouldn't even think about trading a Tracy at all, but with his injury track record its just to much of a gamble.
     
  12. TMac4Life#1

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    No offense but with the way this team is and the History with this team about players being hurt we are going to find out one way or another who is or isn't going to be there. This is an injury prone team sad 2 say :(
     
  13. saleem

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    A few weeks ago I said yes,but now I'm reluctant to do so. I'll probably keep Ron instead. If Ray's shooting goes cold,he can't give much. Ron isn't the defender that he was but he can still be a factor there,when he is not playing well on the offensive end.
    If an S & T for Ron and Ray happens, I won't be upset though. Ray has still got some game left.His stats are pretty good,better than Ron's. Ron has a slight edge when he is at his best.
     
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  14. abc2007

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    I don't think Ray Allen is a good choice for the rockets. He is getting old!

    The rockets should sign a young sg, e.g., Martin.
     
  15. hmittal

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    If this report is true, I 100% agree with Morey shopping TMAC. Unfortunately, his injuries and lack of passion do not allow him to be the kind of player he can be. Frankly, 25 Mil per year is too much money for an injured player. He defenitely showed his true colors during the season especially at the trade deadline. Although, I think the Rockets should trade TMAC for a starting power forward, maybe Amare from Phoenix, not quite sure if the salaries match. Also, we should probably get a veteran starting point guard, I'm not sure if I like the idea of drafting a point guard in the lottery. We are trying to win now and not 5 years from now. Yao only probably has a couple of good years at his peak we cant waste that. Any thoughts??
     
  16. jump shooter

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    Yea I know, T-Macs missed 113 games in five seasons and Yao's missed 93 in seven seasons. I think its to much of gamble to carry them both at the same time.
     
  17. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Dude, chill, it was meant as a joke.

    So sensitive....we are !!

    But I am right, you know....I am always right, even when I am wrong.

    :D

    DD
     
  18. tinman

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    same old NewYorker!
     
  19. TMac4Life#1

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    I guess Magic Johnson was right. IDK if you saw the Inside the NBA when he was on it 2 seasons ago but he said McGrady and Yao are not meant to be together. I said he was crazy for saying that now I think he maybe right.
     
  20. tinman

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    I'll trust Ray Allen, he's a leader and one of the best shooters of all time.
    I trust him jacking up 3s more than Tmac any day of the week.

    Plus, he's Jesus.
     

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