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[Draftexpress] T-Mac being actively shopped

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by i3artow i3aller, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. SageHare6

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  2. Tsquare

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    If you want the team to get pass the Lakers next year you would want Amare on the squad. We need more scoring and Amare is a monster in the post that can get us easy buckets. You said before that he would be a cancer to the team but I honestly think he wouldn't considering that this year is on his last year of his contract. Just look at the situation last season with Artest for instance. It's like when you said you wanted DJ Strawberry over Von Wafer in the preseason. Now you sound like you would lose a finger just to keep him on the team. :rolleyes:
     
  3. emjohn

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    Amare honestly strikes me as the kind of guy that would scream and shout about getting his max extension agreed on before a trade, and if it wasn't received, go on and pout and sulk and be bitter about it all season (Bonzi).

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  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I never said I wanted Strawberry over Wafer.....wtf????

    People just make stuff up....and can't get the context correct.....it is amazing.

    And I honestly think that the Rockets screwed up the Artest situation by not trading him at the deadline....sure we got past the first round with him, but now he holds all the cards...and we should not re-sign him for too much money, he is not that efficient as a player...and is on the decline.

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  5. jopatmc

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    LOL

    Rubio is not going to last past 4. He will be drafted 2 or 3 in all likelihood.
     
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    we should just let him go. we can't sign him for big bucks. if we pay him too little, he'll be bitter for a long while :D . damn it he just dribbles and shoot too much for someone so inefficient
     
  8. DaDakota

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    I think we do a sign and trade for him.

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  9. TManiAC

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    LOL, you know nothing about contract disputes.

    You think Memphis, OKC or Sacto want anything to do with an international contract dispute and a $6 Mill buyout? OKC and Sacto have already committed to point guards, they CANT spend another $6 mill buying out a contract THEN paying a lottery rookie contract after that.

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  10. studogg

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    i'll go ahead and mop this up .

    Memphis, OKC, Sacto or BFE don't care about an international contract dispute. Wanna know why dummy? Because the NBA limits the amount a team has to pay to buy a player out. Therefore, the onus to cover the buyout is on the player. Moreover, Rubio's bridge with his current team is now burned beyond recognition. Pretty much like you. So any chance of him foregoing paying the buyout and staying for an additional year are gone. His leverage has pretty much been cashed.

    And next time, lighten up lewis. we're just having some fun on the internets
     
  11. TManiAC

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    Also, Memphis has had trouble recruiting spanish players, Rubio wont even go to their workouts.

    Beyond the top 4 picks, Washington already is handcuffed to Gilbert's huge contract and it wouldnt make sense to add another point guard given that they also have Javaris Crittenton and Mike James... lets not forget about combo guards like Nick Young also finding minutes in the guard rotation.

    Minnesota may shake things up but given how poorly their franchise is doing, I would think they would try for a more polished product like Stephen Curry than try and reach for an international player.

    Golden State is already running into drama with Monta Ellis. He is threatening to distract the team with trade requests if the Warriors take a point guard.

    So.... given all the above, isnt it likely that Rubio may fall on the draft boards?
     
  12. studogg

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    two wrongs don't make a right
     
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    Rubio doesn't get passed Sacramento at 4 period
     
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    Maybe someone already posted the interview where Ricky said that he wanted minutes. He was very clear on that point. He didn't wound like a guy that was terribly interested in coming off the bench.
     
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    He wants solid playtime, but that doesn't mean he cannot come off the bench.

     
  16. TManiAC

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    The onus is on the player but in this situation Rubio doesnt have the means to that end. Rubio makes roughly 120K a year? So isnt it stipulated that whoever drafts Rubio needs to pay him more... DUMMY.

    "Had the Spurs wanted Scola as soon as they drafted him, San Antonio would have needed to deal with a $15 million buyout for the 6-foot-8 forward. That buyout figure was understood to have dropped to $3 million this year and will be $1 million in summer 2008.

    NBA regulations limit the amount teams can pay to a foreign club to "buy out" an international player -- currently a maximum of $500,000. However, the player himself can pay his old team the balance of the buyout clause. That means the player then looks to recoup that money by seeking a higher than market salary from his new employers, meaning the NBA teams ultimately shoulder the financial burden."

    You just helped my point. Just because his contract was sold to the government doesnt mean he isnt going to play. He is still bound by the terms and conditions of the contract and will still need to pay the buyout to whoever owns his rights. He still needs to buy it out for $6 Mill dollars. You help my point because had the spanish team not sold his contract, they would have agreed to a 50% lower buyout in 2010-2011.. any team drafting him could have stashed Rubio for a year for a cheaper buyout, now that isnt as likely. The team sold the contract to the government to settle a debt... you think they will simply turn their back on Rubio, who happens to be the biggest draw for their team? Think about it....
     
  17. TManiAC

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    Lol, you were so convinced you had "mopped it up" but you just ended up messing up.. dummy
     
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    First of all your post appears that you are signing off as Dummy and not calling anyone dummy. Course with what you were writing that makes sense because your arguments are pretty dumb.

    You say none of the top 7 teams would be interested in dealing with this 6 million dollar buyout but for some reason the Rox would be? The Knicks have more money then the Rox do so why would they not draft Rubio if he fell to #8. Is it because Chris Duhon is really the stud PG they want to lure Lebron there? They have a bigger need at PG then we do.

    Secondly as others have mentioned, the buyout doesnt affect the team that drafts Rubio at all financially. He has to pay it, not them. The team cant contribute more then $500,000 I think. The only way it affects the team is if he cant come up with the cash and is not released from the contract and cant come to the NBA next year. So dont go around calling people dumb and saying they dont understand contract disputes because you clearly dont.

    Smarty
     
  19. studogg

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    ok dumbass, let's play

    the scola situation was different because he was drafted in the second round and never immediately signed. As this is the NBA and not NFL, dumbass, contracts are slotted for rookies, so there is no negotiating in how much a number 2 or 3 pick is going to get. Also, Rubio will be signing endorsement deals very quickly which will easily allow him (btw, there also is not stipulation against Nike buying it out) to pay it off.

    wake up and smell your dumbass. now its time for a shower rookie.
     
  20. Yao#1

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    Again, you know nothing of the rules. Scola was not a first round pick, he could be signed to any deal for any amount.

    Rubio will be a first round pick and is forced to sign a deal for whatever slot he is drafted in. He can not demand 10 million a year from whoever drafts him. He cant even negotiate the deal. If he is drafted #2 he makes a certain amount, the same amount any other player drafted at #2 makes. So no, there is no financial burden the team has to shoulder to make up for his buyout unless it is in year 5 when he can negotiate his first non rookie deal assuming the team picks up all option years.
     

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