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[Draftexpress] T-Mac being actively shopped

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by i3artow i3aller, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. Egghead

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    per slamonline http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/06/source-t-mac-being-shopped/

    Source: T-Mac Being Shopped

    by Ryne Nelson

    Will Rockets fans miss the most important trade of the decade? It could definitely go under the radar.

    H-Town shipped both its 2009 draft picks (to bring in Luis Scola and Ron Artest), leaving most Rockets fans without incentive to follow the NBA’s annual rite of passage. It’s no small secret, though, that the team would like to get rid of Tracy McGrady, and June 25 could be as good of time as any to make it happen.

    Houston also seems to be very active in trade talk, particularly in trying to move Tracy McGrady we’re told. McGrady will be out for the first 20-30 games of the regular season, but there is some thought that he might be able to help a playoff team down the stretch, particularly since he’s in a contract year.

    It’s tough to see how many teams would be able to absorb the $20+ million he’s owed next season. The New York Knicks might be one of them. Houston would be looking for a shooting guard in return.

    Of course, the Rockets would like to get good value to McGrady. And the Knicks want better value for their $20+ million. Trading McGrady for a draft pick would seem like an option, but ultimately a step back in their title pursuit. For that reason, the Rockets should stay relatively quiet next week. GM Daryl Morey may make a shrewd deal to unload salary, possibly for a future pick, but the Rockets would be wise not to trade its established players for an inexperienced question mark.

    But a rookie could just be the icing on the cake of a large trade. It’s purely speculation, but Rip Hamilton’s a name oft-mentioned as being on the block. Should the Pistons offer a package including Hamilton and its first round pick for Mac, the Rockets would be enticed to accept.

    Chance are the Rockets will wait to do something during the free agency period if they’re going to make a move. But Rocket fans may not want to miss the Draft… just in case.
     
  2. TMac4Life#1

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    LOL I'm sorry I had to do it but did you see this video before??? that should answer your question :D
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  3. Aruba77

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    Don't understand all the Amare hating. Houston needs a 4/5 more than almost anything this offseason. Deke's career is over, and Yao has missed significant time the last 3 or so years. We have a huge hole up front right now. If we were to trade T-Mac and players for Amare, our team would be lightyears improved. When Yao goes down (and he will) we don't have to put a 6'5" midget at the 5, praying he can do a serviceable job (and he did). We need Amare badly and the fact that he was our #1 target at the trade deadline should speak volumes about what our organization thinks of him. He's hitting his best years and can fill a couple of important roles on our team.

    as far as his defense ... those who talk about D'Antoni not caring about defense are absolutely right. Let's see what he can do with some different coaching. The guy was probably the best player in that draft and there's no reason to think he can't improve the less than stellar aspects of his game.

    Unbelievable the people who wouldn't want Amare in a Rockets uni :rolleyes:
     
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  4. Pizza_Da_Hut

    Pizza_Da_Hut I put on pants for this?

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    I had to bring this back.
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    I pick Yao's side...
     
  5. TMac4Life#1

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    We need a 4/5 more than anything???? Are you sure about that?? Hmmmm I could have sworn Joey Dorsey was still on this team. Back up center yeah. We have Scola, Landry, and Hayes also. They all have proved to step up when they were called on. So why do we need a big man more than anything??
     
  6. TMac4Life#1

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    thats funny.. I never saw this before.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    unfortunately, not everyone has league pass. they're like the media, just follow on what people say. watch how the knicks drastically improve their offense under d'antoni, but then also got worse on defense.

    when your coach favors a style that prefers offense over defense, the players are going to follow that style.

    amare's work ethic should not be questioned after he came back from microfracture and GOT BETTER.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    ROFLMAO !!...


    Of course it can't be that those of us with league pass just happen to disagree with your OPINION of Amare, right?

    Amare is an extremely gifted athletic player who does not always compete.....that is my main issue with the guy, we are just now getting rid of a guy who didn't compete......

    There is little doubt Amare skills wise is superior to all our PFs, but he just doesn't work hard game in and game out, look at his rebounding as an example....all those gifts and the guy doesn't board like he should.

    I like Amare, would like him as a Rocket, but his contract is expiring, he is going to be seeking a MAX MONEY deal, and the Rockets have other holes that need filling more than at PF.

    We can win with Scola....but take away Scola add Amare and this team is still lacking at the scoring/creating wing position.

    It is simply a matter of priortities.

    And BTW, I have had league pass every year since it has come out....every year......

    I just happen to think organizationally rather than just position by position...

    DD
     
  9. MightyMog

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    What I can't believe is people thinking we need a PF over A SG or an better PG....................................................................

    At least that's my main reason why I don't want Amare. Add the bonus of his defenses, its a no brainer.

    Rockets has always been a defensive team. I fail to see how Amare improves this.

    Rockets need a SG or a better PG. I fail to see how Amare improves this.

    Those 2 alone means stay away from a PF who plays horrible defense.
     
  10. MightyMog

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    I give the man credit, doesn't mean I want to see him in Rockets uniform when we have other areas to address.

    If we had a SG and a better PG in place, than sure lets evaluate Amare.

    I also said if we go for Amare, I hope we also get Nash (so we can fill our gap at the PG)
     
  11. HillBoy

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    Oh yes that's about all he's worth at this point in time given his history and current circumstance. But still, why would the Knicks do this unless the Rox take back one or more bad contracts in return which would be counterproductive to say the least. The only way this would make sense for the Rox is if they could move McGrady's expiring contract for other expiring contracts. I may be wrong (haven't looked at their roster) but I don't see that happening with NY.
     
  12. herro

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    wordddddddddddddddd
     
  13. redao

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    Lakers were in need of a PG but they were happy to take Pau Gasol and put Odom on the bench.

    Stock talents first, upgrade later.
     
  14. HillBoy

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    You do make a good point here but I'm extremely skeptical of all of these "NY Knicks will take ___________ off our hands scenarios". In Houston, you are talking McGrady. Up here (Dallas) they are saying the same thing about the Knicks and Stackhouse who is also an "expiring contract". The Knicks keep getting mentioned because they happen to have the most cap room available but that's because they really are looking at making a run at LeBron & Wade. I really find it hard to believe that they or anyone else actually consider Tmac to be a valuable asset worth trading for now - maybe around the trading deadline after he does something on the court (if then) but certainly not now.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Put it another way......Amare will be making 5 to 6 times the money that Scola is making.

    Are you going to get 5 to 6 times the production? If not, then asset wise, it is not that good of a deal.....fill the noticable hole at SG and backup C first....

    DD
     
  16. thacabbage

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    what i failed to include in my original response to you is that the incentive for the knicks would be in unloading curry or jeffries. (the article in regards to this whole scenario is awful and somehow narrates our motivation being in actually acquiring hughes the player - ignore all that.) they need that extra savings to be able to sign two max guys next summer.

    it wouldn't be counterproductive for us because we will need to accept a bad contract somewhere down the line in whatever mcgrady trade we make. the incentive would be that it would be much easier to trade two separate smaller contracts rather than one big one, especially given that mobley's is instant savings for the receiving team. in fact, that's pretty huge - these expiring contracts are only valuable to teams looking to make a splash in free agency next summer of which the pool is rather small. the assets that are in vogue right now are the instant savings insured contracts that mobley and jerry stackhouse have. an expiring contract isn't sufficient motivation for these teams in dire financial straits to unload their best players as the savings hit is not soon enough to prevent incurring the luxury tax. for these teams, those insured contracts are gold.

    there is also the possibility that the #8 or someone like wilson chandler would be added in as incentive.

    it's not one of the more appealing scenarios that have been discussed, but the more i think about it, mcgrady to new york probably seems like the most realistic from all angles.
     
  17. thacabbage

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    you're completely missing the point here. it's not about "taking him off our hands" - mcgrady's contract is an asset in itself. they would (theoretically) want that contract in order to unload jeffries/curry.

    as far as trading for him "after he does something on the court" - that's completely irrelevant. the knicks' motivation isn't from a basketball personnel perspective.
     
  18. Seth

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    T-Mac for Hamilton and a resigned McDyess or Sheed would make my day.

    Or if Detroit don´t mind, they can resign both and send them here for T-mac along with Rip. (the ñast part is only an expression of desire)
     
  19. t_mac1

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    u would essentially solve the fronting D with amare. dare any team to front yao with amare in the same lineup.

    and also, amare would be a perfect player for adelman's offense. PERFECT.

    but there's no way we can get amare for tmac.
     
  20. redao

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    How about Chris Paul? Would you take him over Brooks?
     

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