1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[Draftexpress] T-Mac being actively shopped

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by i3artow i3aller, Jun 16, 2009.

  1. Nolocke

    Nolocke Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,846
    Likes Received:
    62
    Hamilton, Jefferson, Nash! I'll take any of them and if Morey could get this done I say sign the man to a lifetime extension. Your post has given me hope. Thanks. :)
     
  2. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    Its good in theory if all those teams just wanted to give away talent, but don't we have numerous trade exceptions this year that we didn't use.
     
  3. illwil29

    illwil29 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    338
    Likes Received:
    169

    my bad everyone with talent. Eddy Curry does not have talent.
     
  4. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 1999
    Messages:
    8,427
    Likes Received:
    5,177
    If the Rockets let Artest and Wafer leave for nothing in free agency next summer, and if the Rockets do not extend a qualifying offer to Lowry next summer and let him walk as an unrestricted free agent, and if the Rockets decline to pick up Landry's team option AND fail to give Landry a qualifying offer next summer and let him also walk as an unrestricted free agent, then YES, the Rockets MAYBE have almost enough cap room to sign a big name free agent in 2010. But, as saleem pointed out, who the hell would want to play for that team?

    Brooks/scrub
    scrub/scrub
    Battier/scrub
    Scola/scrub
    Yao/super scrub

    If I'm Lebron, D-Wade or any other marquee free agent, I'd much rather either stay with my team, go to a deeper playoff team with cap room, or sign with the Knicks and get PAID via endorsement deals.
     
  5. HillBoy

    HillBoy Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    2,334
    Man, you have read my mind. Also, why does everyone keep mentioning the Knicks as a possible suitor for the broken down player that is the Tmac of today? Sure they have loads of cap room available but wasn't their unstated intent for doing so was to make a run at LeBron? I simply fail to see how Tmac would fit into that scenario at all.

    Perhaps, but again if you were the Knicks why would you make this deal? How does it move them closer to getting LeBron?

    Now this is indeed a more of a possibility than some of the other hypothetical trades I see on this BBS.
     
  6. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,182
    Likes Received:
    20,334

    We have $28 million committed next year with a $58 million cap. Current salary is $70-some million.

    There is plenty of room to maneuver. Hayes comes off the books, and we have a qualifying offer to Lowry which won't count against the salary cap. Landry is under contract so you can't let him walk anyway.

    We have $10 million to spare right now this summer - we can spend some of it on resigning von wafer, and probably some on a back up center.

    So our Roster would look more like:

    Yao / back-up center
    Scola / Landry
    Battier
    Von Wafer
    D-wade / Brooks

    I think that would be a very competitive team.
     
  7. Smacktle

    Smacktle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    2,140
    Likes Received:
    1,157
    When McGrady gets traded are you gonna change your nic to RIPTMac
     
  8. Old Man Rock

    Old Man Rock Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 1999
    Messages:
    7,157
    Likes Received:
    518
    Either your calculator broke or you forgot to put the crack pipe down when you were using it. We have the MLE and that is it! And Morey has said that full MLE money spent on players usually is a waste.

    I am just curious how you came up with 10 million.
     
  9. Smacktle

    Smacktle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    2,140
    Likes Received:
    1,157
    Dude you need to change your signature. Lakers are laughing at the Celtics and Rockets right now.
     
  10. thacabbage

    thacabbage Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    6,993
    Likes Received:
    145
    you realize mcgrady is an expiring contract himself, right? trading for him allows them to take a low risk flier on him next year without affecting their cap situation the following year. they're not looking to add any talent this year, so their expiring assets (in the form of seperate contracts) would be more useful for a team like houston (in separate trades) that is looking to actually add contributors.
     
  11. Smacktle

    Smacktle Member

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2007
    Messages:
    2,140
    Likes Received:
    1,157
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHA!!!!!!
     
  12. MightyMog

    MightyMog Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2009
    Messages:
    1,847
    Likes Received:
    193

    Yes I am aware of Amare averaged 20ppg without Nash and I am also aware that Zack RAndolph has averaged 20/10 seasons..........

    Both of them have 1 thing in common, defense is horrible.

    All I am saying is, if we get Amare, i would love Nash to be included as a package.

    From my view point, Amare over Scola/Landry combination is an improvement however Nash over Brooks/Landry is a huge improvement. Nash can pass and is one of the best shooters around (his defense is pretty much as bad as Brooks)
     
  13. skamal4484

    skamal4484 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2004
    Messages:
    33
    Likes Received:
    1
    If we trade Tmac for two smaller expiring contracts like what is being rumored, I can see why we'd do it. No matter how well he plays in a contract year, we aren't re-signing him... so instead of gambling on cap room in 2010...

    We could trade the smaller pieces (possibly Hughes and Cat) to a team that is rebuilding. If Gordon or Hedo were to go to Detroit, I could see them trading Richard Hamilton for expiring contracts and draft picks.

    Its far-fetched, but trading Tmac's monstrocity of a contract now gives us more flexibility to go after guys who make in the $10M-$15M range.

    Yao/Backup
    Carluis Scolandry
    Shane/Ron
    Rip/Wafer
    Brooks/Lowry

    He'd be a PERFECT fit for our team. Defense, CONSTANT movement without the ball, team concept, doesn't take bad shots. A more plausible outcome would be getting Michael Redd, but I don't think he's half the player Rip is. Rip is an old school throwback player. Don't look at the stats, watch Rip play.

    -SHK-
     
  14. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    amare is no where near of a bonehead as zach. please, watch more games. zach is what you define a stupid player.

    the rest of your post doesnt make sense logically.
     
  15. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,681
    Likes Received:
    38,926
    Amare is one of the most overated players in the entire league.

    Yes, he has skills, but he doesn't play defense, is lazy when he doesn't get the ball, and he doesn't rebound.

    Arguably, Scola does more in his time on the court for the benefit of the team than Amare does.

    Sure he is a great athlete with a marshmallow head......no thanks....give me guy who is going to work hard all the time over a guy who has to have the ball to be BOTHERED to show up and play.

    PASS...which is also something he doesn't do well....

    DD
     
  16. Old Man Rock

    Old Man Rock Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 1999
    Messages:
    7,157
    Likes Received:
    518
    WOW, you just described Von Wafer
     
  17. Strawman

    Strawman Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2009
    Messages:
    424
    Likes Received:
    6
    I think he doesn't play defense because that is not what his system in Phoenix focuses on. They're system is based on scoring as many points as possible, whereas here it is playing hard defense and calculated offense.

    If he came here I'm sure Amare would be motivated to getting a ring and would change his game and attitude.
     
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    128,681
    Likes Received:
    38,926
    Oh come on, Wafer's issue is he cares TOO much....Amare's is the opposite...

    Say no to another Tmac.

    DD
     
  19. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2008
    Messages:
    26,614
    Likes Received:
    211
    DD, nash was the FIRST suns player who publicly whined on national TV on ABC about too much emphasis on defense and not on offense. STEVE FREAKIN' NASH. maybe it was due to their best player in love w/ d'antoni's system of no defense. that's why everybody on that team played no defense. ;)
     
  20. Strawman

    Strawman Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2009
    Messages:
    424
    Likes Received:
    6
    The difference is Amare shoots 54% from the field and McLazy shoots 42%.
     

Share This Page