1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Draft intel from fairly reliable sources...

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Hey Now!, Apr 28, 2014.

  1. chrispbrown

    chrispbrown Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    1,907
    Likes Received:
    100
    The writing is on the wall. Bob wants a franchise QB, more specifically a franchi$$$e QB aka Manziel.

    Lol Clowney is only here if we are unable to make a trade. Obviously best player in the draft, but not an easy decision...telling
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,482
    Likes Received:
    31,949
    Everyone WANTS a franchise QB, unfortunately there isn't one available. The question is if you reach for a QB just so you can say you picked one early or if you pick the best player and improve the talent on your team.
     
  3. dc1985

    dc1985 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2012
    Messages:
    123
    Likes Received:
    11
    This. It sounds like McNair really wants Manziel. But he can't get everyone on board with it. If he trades back it makes that easier. It shouldn't be hard to get someone to come up for Clowney. Just going to be a question what he will accept for it.
     
  4. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    23,961
    Likes Received:
    14,562
    Clowney is held in high regard.

    Lets hope some team is so in love with him, that they decide to give us two 1's, two 2's and a little more.

    I think it will be Atlanta or Oakland.
     
  5. Cannonball

    Cannonball Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2006
    Messages:
    21,888
    Likes Received:
    2,334
    But how does that benefit McNair monetarily? The Texans can't sell more tickets than they already are. They might sell a lot of Manziel jerseys but guess what? The Texans don't get (most of) that money. Merchandise revenue is split equally amongst the teams. Somebody buying a Cleveland Browns Manziel jersey is worth the same to McNair as if they bought a Texans one.

    There's little financial incentive to pick one player over another unless maybe you're in a situation like Jacksonville, where they don't sell out their games and bringing in an exciting player might help gate sales.
     
  6. Raven

    Raven Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    14,984
    Likes Received:
    1,025
    McNair might crave more attention, and Manziel would certainly bring him that, but the fact that Manziel is a media darling is irrelevant, it's what he does on the field that should get McNair's attention. Manziel is anti Schaub. :)
     
  7. Remii

    Remii Member

    Joined:
    May 29, 2013
    Messages:
    7,622
    Likes Received:
    106
    Sounds to me McNair isn't sold on anyone. Obviously they are not head over heels in love with any player since they are entertaining trading the pick.

    Sounds to me when he speaks of Clowney he's thinking of Mario... Doesn't matter how good he was as an individual player _ his impact on the team wasn't that great. And he doesn't sound like he's 100% confident in any of these quarterbacks either.

    This is a very exciting draft.
     
  8. Rip Van Rocket

    Rip Van Rocket Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 20, 2002
    Messages:
    7,152
    Likes Received:
    356
    Well, you don't know that, no one does. There may be several franchise QB's available, but we won't know until they have actually played in the NFL. There have been many QB's drafted in the past that were thought to be franchise QB's that turned out to be flops. Other QB's drafted after the first round that turned out to be terrific. You and everyone else is just guessing.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,482
    Likes Received:
    31,949
    There's no obvious franchise QB and McNair said as much publicly. There's gambles that could be made reaching for a guy who might maybe end up being a franchise QB one day. So that's sort of what I meant by saying there isn't one available.
     
  10. bluecouchstudio

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2014
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Texans are taking Manziel #1 unless there is a ridiculous trade offer. Naysayers might as well get on board and enjoy the ride.
     
  11. Plowman

    Plowman Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 1999
    Messages:
    13,100
    Likes Received:
    14,839
    First, all the propaganda, and now that we're in serious negotiations....THE TRUTH.

    Bring home the motherload!
     
  12. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2008
    Messages:
    13,780
    Likes Received:
    5,719
    Not sure if it's been metioned or posted but Gil Brandt states Mack will go before Clowney, Teddy will go in the 1st round, and Manziel will go top 5 but probably not #1.

    If J.R. already posted it, disregard.
     
  13. TheresTheDagger

    Joined:
    May 20, 2010
    Messages:
    10,110
    Likes Received:
    7,766
    Agreed.

    McNair is letting the NFL know the following:

    We are taking Clowney...but will trade him to whomever picks Manziel as long as you give us more in compensation beyond just Manziel when we trade.
     
  14. BubbaMac

    BubbaMac Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 1999
    Messages:
    709
    Likes Received:
    7
    Still looking to trade down?
     
  15. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,753
    Likes Received:
    20,509
    Expect the 1.1 trade to happen, if it does, minutes before the Texans are on the clock.
     
  16. tmacfor35

    tmacfor35 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2008
    Messages:
    23,961
    Likes Received:
    14,562
    I think the trade will be contingent upon the player they want being avaliable at 6.
     
  17. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    47,487
    Likes Received:
    19,588
    Can't wait to get Manziel and Maybe Robinson.
     
  18. DonkeyMagic

    DonkeyMagic Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    May 22, 2006
    Messages:
    21,604
    Likes Received:
    3,487
    listen up. I have an urgent message.

    CANNONBALL!
    [​IMG]
     
  19. BubbaMac

    BubbaMac Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 1999
    Messages:
    709
    Likes Received:
    7
    Who would that be? Mack will be gone. Bortles? That would not be ideal.
     
  20. Juxtaposed Jolt

    Joined:
    Apr 5, 2010
    Messages:
    20,827
    Likes Received:
    16,639
    Isn't that a pickle?

    Let's say ATL wants Watkins, for example, and Houston wants Manziel. Houston takes Watkins with every expectation that JFF will be there at 6 - but then the Jags take JFF with the 3rd pick.

    Houston would be SOL, wouldn't they? I mean, Watkins isn't a bad player, but he's not the one we wanted.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now