[Draft Express] Houston making "major push" to acquire #4 pick

Probably means he is not involved then...that would be awkward....

DD

 

Why not have both
Boston did with garnet, Perkins and big baby
That way we'll be good now and the next 5 years when we build around cousins and Brooks etc.

 

Yes he was in his prime on top of that he was very,very athletic which cousins is nowhere close to.

 

Really?

I think its fair, You have to give something to get something. Chase does have potential to be a good player but nothing of what this board seems to make him out as (Comparing Chase's rookie numbers to Kobe's).

I dont know. But good I gave you a little laughter.

 

Ariza+Hill+#14 for #4 and Ryan Gomes.

 

Disagree. Shaq's athleticism was exaggerated because it was so surreal to watch given his enormous size and raw power. Hakeem in his prime was able to run circles around him in the post (on offense) because he was a clearly quicker player.

That's not to say Shaq wasn't a good athlete. He's one of the most incredible overall specimens the game has ever seen - maybe number one. But what made him special comes from how athletic he was relative to his power and all the other aspects of his game. That's where a lot of folks are missing the boat with Cousins, I feel like. No, he's not going to stack up with Favors or someone like that in a foot race or in the measurables. But he's a damn good athlete and will really impress you when you see it in the context of his physicality and the other things he brings to the table in the actual games.

 

uggg, I hope they don't include neither brooks or budinger.

 

No way we move up without having to cough up Brooks and Chase. I wouldn't bet my house on it, though, because Morey continues to amaze, but it would be his grandest achievement if he could pull it off.

Brooks, Hill, Chase, and the NY pick for filler, number 4 and Rubio.

Too much from our perspective and too little from theirs.

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hey, I like that trade for the #4 and Gomes...back to the topic, the only positive with us trading for Cousins is Chuck Hayes...both Wildcat and Chuck can take him under his wing--> from that Bledsoe comment he made after picking for the rox in the other thread.

 

I believe Shaq came out of college when he was a junior.... Cousins would own the NCAA as a junior. I can't believe people that are taking a lot of stock in his laziness issues. He is a freshman in college, a kid.... Let him get inside of a good organization with a good group of players and front office guys and let him blossom.

I think Cousins can give us 20 (maybe more) effective minutes a game next year and really have a solid impact.

 

Agreed.

It also should be mentioned that big men, historically, take longer to mature. When someone has all of the raw tools that Cousins has, it becomes a no-brainer to acquire him. This is especially true for a team that has no true, healthy, center.

 

I've got to agree with that, Cousins would be one of the most dominant players of the last 11 years in college, if he stayed in school another two years.

 

Thanks for basically saying what I was thinking, but in English. I wasn't thinking of Shaq, but I was thinking he looked quick for a guy his size. He also didn't look that "heavy," from the videos I've been looking at. You would think he'd look like Big Baby, from the fat percentage, but he doesn't. He looked in damn good shape when he was playing this past season. In fact, since you mentioned Shaq, he looks a bit like Shaq looked when we played them the season of the second championship. Certainly not Shaq, but the body looks kind of similar to me, just smaller.

 

Shaq also had a 32+ inch vertical and a standing reach of 9'8". On his draft measurements interview session, he tore down the backboard...

Cousins will never be able to match up to the physical gifts of Shaq. In a weak center generation of the NBA however, he will be just fine. Cousins also has a decent elbow range jumper and is more fluid as an athlete so I envision him as a bruiser down low that can also punish you with his midrange jumper or dive in pick & roll situations.

 

i just don't see khan giving up #4 for chase and the 14th. but hey if Morey pulls that off, I would be beyond amazed. i don't think the league is as high on chase as many of the posters on this board are.

if i was khan id hang up the phone

 

Bud+Hill+#14 for #4 is a fair price. But Cousins? I am not sold.

 

I will call you bluff on shaq big time. Shaq was as quick as a man 240lbs and very,very explosive. Cousins is nowhere the athlete or has th explosion of shq. When he was younger, how many times did you see shaq grab the rebound, kick out, and beat guys down the floor and post up in the middle of the lane,turn and rip the srews out the rim. Cousins is an tim duncan in terms of atheleticism to me. He doesnt have alot of lift even when he's alone. I'm not questioning his body as much as others, but when a guy overpowers guys in college sudeenly is playing against guys bigger,stronger and quicker,they have problems. He's more like jefferson to me which isnt bad anyway.

 

Relax.. his standing reach was 9'5 same as Cousins DraftExpress measurements 1992 he did however have a 36 inch vert.

--RB

 

Leeb:

Funny that I was just about to post that Cousins has a lot of Big Al in him. As you said, that's not a bad thing. Big Al's a borderline stud. I've always wondered how much better Jefferson could have been with better coaching and individual instruction. Under Adelaman and via Hakeem, Cousins would be afforded those opportunities.

 

no way that happens....our roster is full of guys in their prime, pretty much all of the significant players are ready to contribute now and for the next couple of years. They'd have to get rid of half the team to go that route and that's not gonna happen in acquiring Cousins. If they draft him it's to use in another trade. I dont think it makes sense to draft him to keep him, since you'll be given up a lot of talent to get him and he won't even be ready to really contribute significantly on a contender. We'd have half a lineup ready to win now and the other half 2-3 years from realizing their potential, doesnt make sense.

Now a role guy like Bud or someone avilable at the 14th makes sense, since you won't be giving up much for them. You can develop them and keep the team intact....so i think if we get Cousins it's probably because someone offered to be a trade partner if we got him for them.