Even if this happens to be true, these 'experts' don't have too good atrack record recently WRT to Vince, UT, Bush, and SC. It's the players themselves decide who has supreme talent.
Matt had his period of being hyped. Bush had the spotlight on him most of this year. It's just Vince's turn. Vince is the new thing and Matt and Reggie had already been done before. That's it. It has absolutely no bearing on how they're ranked or where they'll go in the draft.
And I'm afraid it's going to diminish my love for the Texans as well. I'm already sick and ****ing tired of both sides of the coin and the "you're a moron if you want Bush" or "you're a close-minded idiot homer if you want VY" crap. And you know it won't end when the draft is over, either. Whichever player is taken, those who advocated for the other side will probably end up rooting for the drafted player to fail so they can have the pleasure of saying "I told you so" three years down the line. It's sad that most people cannot appreciate the position this organization is in rather than criticizing and insulting those who have a different opinion than them. This team is starting over one way or another. We're going to have an exciting new coach along with either a possibly great playmaker at RB or a possibly great revolutionary player QB. Instead of acting like idiots, why can't we just enjoy the position we're in? Listening to my fellow Texan fans act like r****ds doesn't really make me want to share my Sundays with them.
I think it is precisely BECAUSE they are starting over and in this position again that fans are disgruntled. Personally, I have only followed them with a passing interest, as I just could not get into them, and have not followed any NFL team since the Oilers left. If they draft Vince, I will immediatly become enamored with the team, if they draft Reggie, I will still follow them somewhat like I do now. I think there are a lot of old Oiler fans who feel the same. DD
Well, instead of whining about taking the person that's not their personal choice, why can't people appreciate the fact that we're choosing between two players that are widely considered to have almost unheard of upside. I mean, we could've been there last year and pinning our hopes on Alex Smith or Ronnie Brown to save this franchise.
Well by all means let's draft VY so that DD and all the other fair-weather fans will have a reason to grace us real Texan fans with their presence on the bandwagon! Unless we have another losing season that is... DD, no offense to you personally, but we don't need fans like you. The Texans should cater to their real fans, not their casual passing interest fans.
People view things differently...I think it is a great position to be in, but the history of the franchise and their choices has not been good, maybe people feel they will screw this one up too? Also, a lot of people, including me, think that drafting a "game changing" QB is more valuable then a "game changing" RB. Just a debate......let's take this to the D&D....oh wait...we can't. DD
No offense taken, I am merely stating that a lot of people have not embraced the Texans yet, a good many have, but drafting a local hero is good marketing, and would bring a lot more fans to the teams side. If you think that the Texans don't consider this, then I think you are mistaken.....at the end of the day they are in it to make money. All things being equal...money rules the day. DD
MANY more people have than haven't. The Texans already have PLENTY of fans. Have you tried to get season tickets lately? All I'm saying is the Texans have to do what they think will help them win, not what they think will convert a small portion of Houstonians who don't care about the Texans.
but it's not just Houstonians. McNair's goal for the Texans is to have them be recognized as Texas' Team. He said the Cowboys can be America's Team...he wants to be Texas' Team. VY is a step in that direction. and sellouts won't last forever. this franchise has enjoyed a nice little honeymoon phase. it's eroding quickly.
The funny thing is, many of the same fans who are clamoring for VY are often all over franchise management--in any sport--for choosing "money" over "winning" (as if the two were mutually exclusive).
No offense buddy, but do you think that if you didn't spend >10 hours per day on internet message boards that you would still be sick and tired of hearing about it?
I submit to you that winning will get us there faster than a local-heros-only draft policy. If you think drafting VY is the right decision because you think he's got more (on the field) upside, I'm fine with that. But if you think drafting VY is the right decision because it would be better for marketing, that's where I have a problem. Football is about winning, not marketing.
No, being a fan is about the passion for the team, right now, the Houston Texans are a niche team, with a decent (albiet eroding) fan base in Houston Texas. In all other cities across Texas the Dallas Cowboys DOMINATE the market. Drafting Vince Young gets you a LOT more interest in the rest of the state, and that speaks volumes. DD
BTW, I was just trying to be funny. I was sick and tired of it on Thursday, January 5. Driving home from work, I heard two callers, one advocating each player, say the same thing we've heard and read ever since then. It's been annoying from day one.
I think I'm starting to want the Texans to draft Bush just because everyone else wants Young. I don't see how yall can talk about it so much. Its disturbing.
I find this particular statement interesting because you have been very anti-Carr. If you only follow them with passing interest, how can you determine that he will never be anything better than average or medicore, as you have stated in many previous threads? You have said that Carr has shown you little if anything in his 4 years, how many games have you actually watched from beginning to end in those 4 years to help you come to this judgement? Again, I do not love Carr, but I refuse to judge how good he is or can be based on what I have seen (and I have watched every game) because he has had NO help from the team during his tenure.
I don't necessarily root for them, but I am still addicted to watching the sport....and Andre Johnson was on my fantasy team...so I watch the Texans...VERY closely. DD
