No amount of justification can whitewash the fact that the statement is an anti-semitic statement. It is that kind of thinking that has made the Jews a persecuted peopel over the centuries. and open-ended anti-Semitism? Are you serious?
You are allowed your own opinion, but not your own version of the truth. If you expect a wink will make everyone fine with your hatred and lies, you are wrong.
You have anti-semitic ideas and you seem to be anti-semitic yourself. There is no domination of America by Jews or Asians. Furthermore your presumed logic assumes that all Jews in power are acting with a unified purpose. That is BS. You could 5 Jewish people in the top 5 most powerful positions in the world and they would have 5 different ideas on what should be done. There is no unified conspiracy. It is pure ignorance.
I don't think all Jews act in unison. I am saying there is a minority of them that form the Israel lobby. I suppose AIPAC is an organization that contains a plural number of Jews, right?
I don't think we can change each other's opinion in these forums. However, I think it would be great if we can learn some facts together thru discussion. Hopefully, by learning these facts, we might change our opinion a bit. Anyway, can you point out some factual errors I posted. I would appreciate that. Thanks!
I don't believe Jews control the US government. They only have a big influence. Their influence has to compete with other interests, like the Big Oil, military industrial complex, etc. So I guess I am safe for now because you guys don't have the energy to do anything to a petty individual like me.
You think Jews dictate our foreign policy and have led us to war. That's just a plain lie because you have no facts to back that up. Tell me, what do you think of the Holocaust?
Maybe I should clarify my position better. In our political system, political lobbies play a big role. There are many players that lobbies our politicians to do things favorable to them. They are many lobbies: Israel, military industrial complex, big oil, tobacco, Turkey, Arabic, PRC, Taiwan, etc. Their competitng lobbying efforts and luck decide the kind of laws we get. This is part of the feature (or bug?) of our system and I respect that. But that doesn't mean I agree with the laws. I think the Israel lobby, military industrial complex and the big oil are pushing for policies now that are detrimental to our national well-being. Therefore I oppose them. But I am just one of the many in this democracy. I would respect what the majority decides (ie the outcomes of the lobbying battles raging on the Hill every day) until we fix/change our political system.
I don't think Jews are the only players that lead us into war. The military industrial complex and the big oil also played their role. As I said I don't think they dictate us to do anything. They only have a big influence. As to evidence that they play a role, Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle are all Jews who favor a regime change in Iraq. They have pushed it for years and got their break at 9/11. Then the rest is history. This shows that the Jews can't really dictate US foreign policy, but with luck and their persistence, it finally pays off. As to Holocaust, I think it happened. It was a terrible crime. But it has nothing to do with War with Iraq or War with Iran.
I don't even need to say anything about this sentence. luck????? So you think 9/11 was a lucky break for the Jews and something that cheered Jewish people because it gave them the opportunity to get the US to hit Iraq? Do you also believe that Jews control the media?
said it was a lucky break for Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle et al. Please go back and re-read my post.
Are you baiting me or what? I know typing "Jews" is easier than typing "Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle et al" but still.....
Hows that baiting? this is what you wrote. And again, do the Jews control the media? This is 3rd time I'm asking
No, I wrote "Doug Feith, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle et al." not "Jews". It was you who typed "Jews" As to the media, as a matter of fact, some Jews own some media outlets. I didn't do anything research as to the extent of ownership. For the media outlet that is owned by Jews, I think if the media outlet is reputable, I don't think the owner impose any control on the reporting. However, the editorial board might have a more similar view to the owner. This is the idea of separation of editorial and reporting freedom For example, the Washington Post (not sure if it owned by Jews or not)'s editorial board supports Iraq War but the general reporting there are not favorable to it.
Well, I think I have consistently says minority of Jews and name specific Jews. But I suppose it is hard to keep typing all the words all the time... This is also consistent with my view that stereotypes are the natural result of human limitations. The reality is usually more complex than human can or want to describe in its fullest extent. That's why people like Bush can resonate with people more.
