Honestly, I have no issue with just thinking she's not insightful, or interesting, or disliking the tone of her voice. That's a matter of taste/opinion. Probably I should have made that come across better. But there was a sexist aspect to much of the commentary that I found very distasteful, and I'm not alone on that. And then, add on top of this, just the usual complaining about national broadcasters having an agenda against the Rockets and our team which, at a certain point, is just too much. Any objective, non-homer observer would of course have positive and negative things to say about a team like ours, right? But the tendency here is to magnify the negative stuff totally out of proportion because we're so hyper sensitive to it. And then you have the amplifying affect of an internet forum full of aggrieved sports fans that builds up this mostly constructed "everyone is out to get us" narrative. In my opinion, what this leads to is really not healthy for an online community. It not only becomes a distraction away from enjoying the team and talking about actual basketball, it's a bad look to outsiders who peer in here to see what we're talking about.
I hear you. But I actually enjoy the homerism. Same reason I would rather watch our local broadcasters. I understand someone can be a true fan and objective (my son for example) so I don't believe anyone is a"traitor" if they have objective criticism of our team while still being a fan. But I am always going to see things with a Rockets bias, and I enjoy it that way! Also, if different posters were jumping on Doris, I wouldn't have said anything. But there were some really good posters who were irritated that I'm pretty certain are not sexist. Hope we have a good game tonight!
Still wondering about this "sexism" thing. . . . I'm not sure I saw any post here saying "Females are worse" in some way. Well there was one: "stick to softball," which implies she is not ready for male sports. The "I'd do her" comments, while crude and irrelevant, are objectifying, but I don't think they are sexist per se. If, say, Michelle Margaux said about Kenneth Faried "I'd do him," that wouldn't be sexist, would it? And a genuine feminist dude could say about Michelle Obama "I'd do her"; that doesn't mean he looks down on women; it means he is largely objectifying her, although he probably does consider her character a bit in his evaluation. We rip the crap out of male commentators' character and competence: no one ever called that sexist. Few people here even questioned Burke's knowledge of basketball.
The context of this objectification, as I see it, is a lot of these people are using her womanhood as a means to demean her because they don't like her commentary.
Says the person with over 100,000 posts on a message board and offers his opinion on everything. You're a huge hypocrite
I recorded game 3, @durvasa, and I assume you did as well. Look at Harden's 3 (on Engels?), his first make after his dunk in the 4th. Burke says, "...and he uses that left hand a little bit to get a separation. It would be an interesting thing for the league to look at." Who ever says that after a shot in this context? Please tell me. "It would be an interesting thing for the league to look at." I decided to watch the 4th again to kill time before the game, and because I was interested in seeing how it played out. I knew something really ticked me off early in the quarter and when I heard that, I knew that was it. Seriously, what commentator in this context says, "...an interesting thing for the league to look at." Like, could she be any more blatant in asking the league to examine Harden with a microscope when he shoots a guarded 3? Again, have you ever heard a color commentator say something like that after what I considered a run of the mill shot by Harden? The first made 3 he had made in an age? It's not a comment about a hard foul or anything similar. This is during an extremely physical game. I never have.
A number of smart basketball people who are great follows on Twitter have talked about that move. It’s definitely a thing on a lot of people’s radar, not something she just brought up out of the blue. People can disagree on whether it should be a foul or not. No doubt, for many it will come down to whether it helps or hurts their favorite team, rather than considerations over quality of the game itself. But wherever you land, that question is an important one, and there’s nothing wrong with her putting it out there as something the league may take a closer look at.
I couldn't disagree more and, as I said, I've never heard a color commentator say that on air about a shot in that context. I've watched hundreds of games played by the Rockets, and countless games played by other teams over the years. Just so you will know (I've mentioned it here and there, but am not surprised that you might missed it, durvasa), I don't Twitter, unless it's looking at something posted here. I also don't Facebook, Reddit, or the other numerous social media options. As someone who grew up when the internet and cellphones didn't exist, and didn't for years (I remember when public phones went up from a dime to a quarter! The stories I could bore people with), this BBS is enough social media for me. I use the internet for a host of other reasons, but for social media, this is it. ;-) I'll add that I don't care for the title of this thread, but it seemed to be the pertinent thread about a topic of interest. We seem to have a different broadcast team! Friar Tuck opens with a 3!
