I gotta agree with xerobull, DD. Any businessman is in sales. To be honest, I enjoy giving pointers and helping out boys. Have I bought a few more mag subscriptions than I needed to? Of course. In fact back in the day, I never forwarded my mail so the new resident got the spoils of Playboy, Maxim, etc. It ended up typically being a $30 sale. You make more than I ever have from what you've stated here. Don't be a dick to some guy that gets the door slammed in his face over a 30 dollar magazine. I tend to think you're better than that.
I had a couple of these guys show up to my house a few months ago. I've heard of these scams before, so I had no intention of buying anything, but I was very polite to them. My dogs go crazy when the doorbell rings, so I usually go out my garage instead of trying to open the front door. After I told these guys I wasn't interested, they looked at my car and said something like "That's a real nice car you have there, I bet you've had it real easy in life to be able to get a car like that. You should spread some of your good fortune to us and buy some magazines." That just pissed me off so i just said "not interested" again and closed the door. That experience also reminded me why I almost never answer my door unless I'm expecting someone.
The difference good sir, is the "AT HOME" portion. I totally respect the privacy of other people's home, and if they had a "NO SOLICITORS" sign, I would move to the next house. Sorry, if you have the sign, you should move along to the next house, and not be surprised when someone closes the door. DD
Yes, I would .....I hate pushy sales people.....I only go for a win win type of sale.....something that makes sense for all involved. I am not in the Glen Gary Glen Ross type of fan... DD
Pushy as in ring your doorbell? You aren't winning this argument, Eric. Anyone successful has had to push a bit, and if you're not willing to encourage that to younger folk then shame on you. Seriously, you need to rethink your position. And that ridiculous sign outside your door either needs to go, or you need to go into an hourly paid career.
No, I don't have to rethink anything....if the sign is there, respect it. You are showing a complete lack of respect by ringing that bell....and if you do, you deserve the slam in the face. End of story. DD
I'll remember that the next time you come on here peddling something. Again, you're off base. I haven't ever done door to door sales, but I have cold-called in the past. It sucked. My degree? Finance My position? Financial advisor at Morgan Stanley
Often they are just dropped off in a neighborhood and left for the day. Some of these magazine organizations are a little like indentured servitude. I never buy from them but am always polite, hear them out, say no, and if it is hot, offer them a cup of water to take with them. They are usually quite grateful. I do this with most of the door-to-door folks like the lawn guys, alarm guys, etc. because it is a tough job and they are trying to earn a living. They get plenty of a-holes being rude to them and always appreciate the normal respect any human should show towards another.
People have "no solicitors" signs out for more than the standard "I don't want to be bothered" reason. That is why it is important to respect the sign. When my son was young, he had colic real bad and was a very light sleeper. Of course, any time someone knocks on the door or rings the door bell, my dog barked. Despite the sign, I had someone knock on the door, dog barks, son wakes up screaming after it took us 2 hours to rock him to sleep. Boy, I was furious.
I honestly thought I would feel sympathy and then reread it. Colic? Seriously? Real bad colic is about the easiest diagnosis for any child who doesn't sleep like a log. My son had Colic. #1: It lasted what? 6 weeks? #2: Really? You put a sign up for this?
It is amazing how arrogant and know-it-all you are. #1: My son was several weeks premature and he had numerous issues for the 1st 12 months of his life, colic being one of them. #2: The sign was up before he was born and is still up to this day because my wife works at home. #3: I have never bought anything from a door2door salesman and never will (neighbors kids aside).
Then state something more serious than colic. That is tantamount to me saying I have really bad heartburn. #1: I apologize if there was an issue with your child being premature, or any complications thereof. But, again, colic isn't a premature issue. It's more of a "baby" issue, and it tends to clear itself up. #2: Your wife being home alone makes sense in a way, but why is it even necessary? Just don't answer the door? #3: You don't have to, but don't treat them like miscreants. I see that also big time with telemarketers. I get it. Folks don't like salespeople. But people have really lost common decency with folks trying to make a living. You and DD might think you're justified in treating people like crap, but you aren't, and it is high time someone told you so.
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I never said it was a premature issue. I said my son had colic and issues from being premature and because of it, we didn't want strangers knocking on our door or ringing our door bell. or just don't knock on the door when there is a sign. See what I did there? I haven't treated them like miscreants. I told them their lack of respect woke up my kid and I pointed to the sign on my porch and told them to not come back again. First of all Fatty. You are one to talk about anyone who you think may be treating people like crap, because that is what you have done here for years, especially those that stand up to your bullying. Second, I never treated anyone like crap that came to my door, and how you got that from my posts on this matter is beyond me. Actually, it isn't beyond me, because, well, that is just you.
I'm going to stop with the baby stuff. You proved my point that colic was never the actual issue. (And I know you have one hell of a healthy son by now... I've met you.) And once again, what did the "sign" do? And who were you scaring off? Kids trying to make a living? (sadly, magazine D2D salesmen are a bunch of sad sacks with a bad lot in life, unlike the waitresses and others we happily waste money on...) I have no high horse here, Codell. IIRC, you're one of the few guys I hung out with Behad with at Live, and you were always a solid guy. And you can call me whatever crap you want, and I'll handle it. But you and DD are trying to keep some moral high ground on a salesman? You I can semi tolerate. (although anybody with a business sense at all knows we are all salesman to an extent.) But Eric is inexcusable. Sales are his meal-ticket. And deep down, he knows this. I do the same thing when my non-drinking evangelical brother gets on me. I love you all, but sometimes a reality check is necessary.
