1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Don't you guys think Adelman deserves blame for this too?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009.

?

Does Adelman deserve blame?

Poll closed Mar 18, 2009.
  1. Yes

    168 vote(s)
    74.3%
  2. No

    58 vote(s)
    25.7%
  1. xouterheavenx

    xouterheavenx Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    0
    thank you for making this thread.
    i was getting pissed for him leaving artest in.
     
  2. jkckwong

    jkckwong Member

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2003
    Messages:
    704
    Likes Received:
    2
    Yao just can't play >8 minutes in a stretch. Once he's exhausted he loses his timing, he's becoming slow and he drags down the offense. Replace him with either Hayes, Landry or even Mutombo is a "must", why didn't Coach Adelman do that?

    Coach Adelman doesn't have to look at the watch for the precis time to pull Yao out. Once he sees Yao a little winded, he should take him out of the court, unless Yao's TO and slowness is part of his game plan lol.

    Playing Yao a full quarter plus a few mintues in the following quarter TWO TIMES in a game is asking for disaster and for Yao's unclutch performance in the last few minutes of the game.

    I saw that in today's game. Why didn't the coaching team aware of that, when will they wake up?
     
  3. OlajuwonShake34

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2009
    Messages:
    746
    Likes Received:
    0
    Exactly, this is where Jeff Van Gundy used Yao perfectly in. Nobody utilized his minutes better than him. Every game of the Houston Rockets, I strictly remember that he would always take out Yao when their would be 3 minutes left in the 1st quarter. I think the same in the 3rd quarter too.
     
  4. bfurlough

    bfurlough Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2008
    Messages:
    32
    Likes Received:
    0
    That's a pretty good question. I also wonder why he NEVER plays Mutumbo or Brian Cook for that matter. Why did we even bring Mutumbo here in the beginning? Jus so Boston wouldn't?
     
  5. chaosun86

    chaosun86 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 12, 2008
    Messages:
    79
    Likes Received:
    0
    I really don't understand what rick is thinking sometimes. He did't let Yao have more rest while we're leading them more than 10 point. He didn't take brooks out while he lost his mind on the court and he didn't do anything when battier's defense on kobe didn't work. Yao is a big man, you can't left him on the court for too long. Jackson won't let kobe stay on the court at the beginning of the fourth quarter. RA was stupid that he let Yao stay on the court at the beginning of the fourth quarter and took him out. So stupid!!!
     
  6. logicx

    logicx Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    760
    Likes Received:
    15
    Sure. Everybody deserves blame. Individuals don't lose games, teams do.

    Horrible shooting percentage by Ron Artest/Shane Battier (especially from 3-point land, Rick Adelman's unwillingness to sub anyone out or change the game plan while the starters were blowing the lead early in the 3rd, stupid turnovers (everyone in every game has turnovers, ours, for the most part were stupid and easily avoidable), missed open shots by Shane Battier, Von Wafer, Ron Artest, etc. etc.

    The team lost this game and Rick Adelman deserves some of the credit. This team has to learn to adapt. This isn't the first game where another team has found out how to shut down Yao, and our team can't seem to adapt. They just keep doing the same thing over and over that doesn't work.

    Couple stats I liked:
    Shane Battier 1-9 (11%)
    Ron Artest 4-24 (16%)
    It may not be a coincidence that the two players guarding Kobe had the worst shooting percentages, although Shane's been shooting that way for a while now. Make just a few open shots and it's a different game.

    Frustrating.
     
  7. EbolaScola

    EbolaScola Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2008
    Messages:
    1,151
    Likes Received:
    2
    Adelman doesn't know when to bring in other players when the ones on the court aren't performing, like in the 3rd when he left the starters in for 8 min.
     
  8. platinum

    platinum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    Coach shall be responsible for team's lose and be blamed by not having response to Laker's defense on Yao and abuse on Aaron.
    He is the shortest part when Rox faces Lakers.
     
  9. Gakatron

    Gakatron Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    5,035
    Likes Received:
    2,876
    Nothing new Adelman getting out coached by Jackson... why I hope we can hold this 3rd seed because if we do advance I would want the Lakers as late as possible and hope someone upsets them beforehand.
     
  10. JLEW1818

    JLEW1818 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2008
    Messages:
    1,916
    Likes Received:
    3
    I agree with the original poster. Yao played the entire 1st quarter. He looked dead with 4 minutes to go in the fourth.
     
  11. leonking

    leonking Rookie

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    352
    Likes Received:
    0
    Just show me one regular game from Jeff Van Gundy or Rudy Tomjanovich in which Yao played through the whole 1st and 3rd quarter plus the beginning of 2nd and 4th quarter.
     
  12. arabrocket

    arabrocket Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    3,538
    Likes Received:
    2,062
    i dont blame him, if his coach is not saying anything to him it means his fine with it. RA needs to talk to him during games. had this been the case with spurs, G pop would pull the player out and argue the **** out of him.
     
  13. superweapon-yao

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2008
    Messages:
    127
    Likes Received:
    0
    who is the next?
    Mike Bibby? :D
     
  14. arabrocket

    arabrocket Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    3,538
    Likes Received:
    2,062
    JVG is a better talkative coach imo. but his offence sucked big time when he relyed on tmac only and sometimes yao. and we ranked like 27th in bench points since he only played luther and howard.
     
  15. smallpotato

    smallpotato Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2009
    Messages:
    465
    Likes Received:
    0
    Oh,Yao is not the only one who plays badlly ,I think Ron should make at least 1or2 open 3s,and Lakers defense are mostly on Yao,they stop Yao,but we cant stop Kobe,that why we lost.
    Ron had 6TOs tonight,and YAo had 4.
     
  16. Rocketsgo

    Rocketsgo Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2007
    Messages:
    142
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have to say Yao and Adelman are a mismatch. Adelman gives his rotation players too much freedom at the price of sacrifice the influence of starting players. Though Tracy has got himself to blame, Adelman is the man pushing him to be out this season. In Adelman's system he doesn't need any superstar. I can't find any leader in this team now. Everyone likes to shoot as if he were the superstar. When good chance is lost one by one, they suddenly find they still have a big man. But it is too late. A team full of the talented but without discipline can't go far in the playoffs. To get past the first round is Rockets' best luck this season. A wasted season again.
     
  17. kevyn

    kevyn New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2009
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree with you. Wafer did a great job in the 4th quarter, and we did have a chance to win. But finally the hope is gone because of Artest's offensive turnover and his gambling to steal. I think Artest was kind of irritated by Kobe at that time and wanted to defeat him 1on1, but obviously that's unwise.
     
  18. bj3175

    bj3175 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2007
    Messages:
    2,431
    Likes Received:
    2,720
    The Rox allowed themselves to lose their poise due to their competitive desire to make the Lakers respect them. When you abandon your gamepaln it can only lead to disaster.Coach has to do do a better job at in game strategic changes, When you go up against Phil or popovich you have to make adjustments like playing chess.
     
  19. BaiHua

    BaiHua Member

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2009
    Messages:
    900
    Likes Received:
    200
    absolutely yes
     
  20. platinum

    platinum Member

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2009
    Messages:
    130
    Likes Received:
    0
    Can Alex see the result of this poll?
     

Share This Page