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Don't you guys think Adelman deserves blame for this too?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009.

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Does Adelman deserve blame?

Poll closed Mar 18, 2009.
  1. Yes

    168 vote(s)
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  2. No

    58 vote(s)
    25.7%
  1. OlajuwonShake34

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    Yeah, so that would be a lie. Talk to me when you can post legit evidence or use legit sources.

    Till then, Peace.
     
  2. J.Will.Xu

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    Sometimes he just can't react sooner to what happened on the court and take measures.His patience sometimes does not bring any bright effect on the team,esp come the clutch moment at the end of the game.

    I don't blame him for the loss coz we did play poorly on both ends tonight,we can neither handle Kobe nor score consistently.
     
  3. choujie

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    Adleman never runs the same offense JVG did.

    Yao would never have only got 9 shots against Lakers. That would be what Yao got in the first quarter.
     
  4. Pringles

    Pringles Member

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    Have you noticed that since the Dallas Maverick series, that unstoppable pick and roll between Yao and Tracy were being less used? Ever thought that both players might have been declining in mobility and athleticism? Remember Tracy pulling up behind Yao's pick for a three? Or when Yao would roll, get it, and then dunk it? Those days are over, and they have declined.

    And I could name few things why Yao didn't score 39 points against Lakers like under Jeff Van Gundy. (Mind you, he only scored 39 points once against the Lakers under Jeff)

    1. He's declining in mobility. Proof? Disappearance of Pick and Roll - don't blame that on Rick, Jeff stopped using that in his last years.

    2. Lakers not having an interior post. Lakers have Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. Yao takes advantage of Bynum EASILY, but Pau Gasol just kept forcing turnovers tonight.
     
  5. A_3PO

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    This game was good for the Rockets. They needed to eat some humble pie, especially Artest. It was a tough game to lose, but this will give the Rockets a much-needed perspective check. I think they, and many members here, were feeling too good about things. When the Lakers turned up the defensive heat in the 2nd half, they pummeled the Rockets. Artest lost his mind and blew any chance the Rockets had of winning. When the Lakers doubled up Yao, he seemed very slow and made very bad decisions.

    I view this game as a playoff preview. It showed why the Rockets don't want the Lakers in the 1st round. Like every other team, their motto should be: Anything but the 8th seed.
     
  6. kingfurr

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    then trade yao for him,everyone will happy :cool:
     
  7. UTAllTheWay

    UTAllTheWay Member

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    What do you want me to do, post the game for you?

    If you had actually watched it, you'd realize that Yao can't guard Pau Gasol...

    When they don't have Andrew Bynum, this team is better to defend the Lakers without Yao.
     
  8. OlajuwonShake34

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    I actually saw that pick n roll a lot in his last year being the coach of the Rockets. I saw it a lot during the 2007 Jazz series, Jazz ended up knowing that every single time and then they ended up winning the series due to being to predictable on offense. Only reason why those days are over is because Tracy is over.

    Yes, Yao has declined in mobility a bit, obviously.
     
  9. OlajuwonShake34

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    I watched the game, Yao couldn't guard Gasol that well, but It's not like Gasol torched him. Are you a Utah fan? Looking at your screen name it seems like you are. :confused:
     
  10. bfurlough

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    Then Mr. Artest needs to do more than just shoot 3s. Artest for some reason hasn't gotten to the hole enough this season. It's either hit or miss with him. If hes not shooting the 3 well, then what else does he have? In Sacto, he got calls when he drove to the line. He's not getting that here for some reason.

    Yao's hands were a big part in us getting killed on the boards. It's like when he gets the ball, people just poke it away from him. This has been throughout his career and I don't see it changing.

    The way we lost this game is what will kill us in the playoffs. We simply are not able to finish what we start.
     
  11. OlajuwonShake34

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    I'm guessing you never really played basketball in your lifetime, If you are 7'6 don't you think it's kind of hard to get the ball in NBA speed especially when the ball is thrown at your ankles? :rolleyes:
     
  12. kevtse

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    Yes, we are playing Gundy Ball!!
     
  13. kingfurr

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    you guys are too sensitive,weak and hysterical...

    calm down :)
     
  14. Bobby60

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    Blame needs to be shared equally by Adelman and his staff, and the players.

    No adjustments to the game plan at the half, while Jackson changed his team's approach drastically. Rebounding! Blocking out is fundamental - everyone knows that - yet we were beaten on the boards time and time again. I know neither Chuck or Deke offer much, if any, offence, but I don't think the Lakers would have continued to get second chances over and over again!

    One dimensional offence - zero adjustments to the way the Lakers played in the second half - why is Adelman so stubborn? Neither Artest or Battier could buy a basket - but they must have been listening to Clyde: "keep shooting!" Perhaps somebody else could have been given an opportunity, or been given it in a more timely manner. Loyalty to his starters is wearing tinner and thinner.

    Bad shooting night, but it's now history. Learn and move on!
     
  15. Gummi Clutch

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    Gasol had Yao shook, and Adelmen waited way too long to pull him.
    Still we gave them hell.
     
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    sorry guys
    Adelman just said: i don't know why……i have no idea……
    that's why he always is behind Jackson
     
  17. UTAllTheWay

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    I overexaggerated a little bit on the "ate Yao alive part" but it seemed, to me, that every time Pau got the ball with Yao guarding him, he ended up scoring.

    Landry played impressive defense against Pau, and could actually rebound. Scola struggled against Pau too (like that play where Gasol just blew right past him) but Landry was quick enough, and athletic enough, to help out and stop Gasol.

    If we face the Lakers when they have Bynum, then we are a better defensive team with Yao out there. If we play them when they don't have Bynum, we are a better defensive team without Yao.

    And the UT in my user name stands for the University of Texas. It is my user name on another site, so I just used it here.
     
  18. bfurlough

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    I was referring to his rebounding. He has the rebound and then gets it knocked from him consistently. If he's not going to get fouls called for that then a tleast hold on to the ball. I never said anything about him getting passes. You try to never throw bounce passes to a big man and yes I've played basketball in my lifetime. I don't see how your smart remark has anything to do with me ever playing basketball.
     
  19. OlajuwonShake34

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    There is no better way to put it than how you put it.

    I just believe if we had a much more disciplined coach like an Avery Jonhson, Yao would not be repeating mistakes and being so clumsy over and over again. Under JVG, Yao never made that many mistakes because JVG was strict about it. If you ask me from what I've seen, I believe Yao has probably made more mistakes this season than he has throughout his career.
     
  20. Yakapo

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    Someone needs to coach Yao how to pull the ball down, wrap your arms around it, and swing your elbows to clear those pesky flies away.
     

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