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Don't you guys think Adelman deserves blame for this too?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009.

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Does Adelman deserve blame?

Poll closed Mar 18, 2009.

  1. Yes

    168 vote(s)
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  2. No

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  1. Pringles

    Pringles Member

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    Wow, seriously?

    Why don't you pick up the same stats with Jeff Van Gundy and Rudy Tomjanovich? :rolleyes: I'll bet 10 dollars to the TipJar that Rick did not invent that. You agree to this bet?

    I don't blame Rick for this loss at all.

    Kobe is Kobe. Once he gets hot like that, and of course his superstar calls, you can't stop him.

    Artest's emotion is what the Rockets live and die by. You gotta live with it. Same could be said about the Rocket's 3 point shooting.

    Turnovers were the biggest problem. Half of it was Yao not being able to seal his man, half of it was the guards not being patient.
     
    #41 Pringles, Mar 11, 2009
  2. vstexas09

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    you, my friend, are an idiot...
     
    #42 vstexas09, Mar 11, 2009
  3. OlajuwonShake34

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    Well, I never said I want JVG back because I don't. I am just saying that Adelman isn't as much of an upgrade over JVG than I thought it would be.

    I do believe we need a coach that can really discipline this team though, that or somebody smart enough to win titles and win games consistently. Avery Johnson and Rudy T for me. Rudy T. coached Yao quite well and could have easily led the Rockets to the playoffs if he wasn't forced to resign.
     
    #43 OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009
  4. RV6

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    i dont understand why it has to be Yao OR adelman's fault, why cant it be BOTH's fault??? there were enough errors tha can be traced back to them and others.
     
    #44 RV6, Mar 11, 2009
  5. SuperStar

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    What type of game plan makes Yao able to hold onto rebounds?
    What type of game plan makes Yao clutch in the 4th?
    What type of game plan makes Yao less turnover prone?
    What type of game plan makes Yao able to seal his defender out and box out?

    No sir the fundamentals of Yao is not strong.
     
    #45 SuperStar, Mar 11, 2009
  6. OlajuwonShake34

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    A disciplined coach and a coach who can utilize his minutes properly. Under JVG Yao never made that many mistakes. I'm sure the amount of mistakes Yao made this year is more than he has made over his career.
     
    #46 OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009
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    JVG did a better job, do u think he is the best among all the nba coachs?
     
    #47 zzc1818, Mar 11, 2009
  8. UTAllTheWay

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    He went 9-14 with Yao guarding him.

    He went 0-4 with Landry/Scola guarding him.

    He's way too athletic for Yao.
     
    #48 UTAllTheWay, Mar 11, 2009
  9. pippendagimp

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    Every single team Adelman has coached in the past 20 years - has choked in big games with uncanny frequency.
     
    #49 pippendagimp, Mar 11, 2009
  10. OlajuwonShake34

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    It is clearly both for TONIGHT'S game. Throughout this season, I believe it has clearly been the blame of Rick Adelman. I'm also wondering why he WOULDN'T want T-Mac getting surgery.

    It's really not a surprise to me why he hasn't gotten a ring yet. His gameplan is somewhat identical this decade's Phoenix Suns.
     
    #50 OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009
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    I don't understand his AB love...and strange sub pattern.
     
    #51 michecon, Mar 11, 2009
  12. OlajuwonShake34

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    Do you have any proof of that, or are you just making stats up? :rolleyes:

    Just to let you know though Evidence > No Evidence
     
    #52 OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009
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    artest forced it too much, he went 1 on 1 in so many late possession
     
    #53 ferrarif1286, Mar 11, 2009
  14. SuperStar

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    I think the whole JVG did a better job with Yao is a myth. All he did was force feed him the ball on every play. Rockets never made it out of the first round of the playoffs. Yao was younger, healthier, and faster compared to now. Fundamentals shouldn't be something a coach has to teach a player who has been in the league for 7 years.
     
    #54 SuperStar, Mar 11, 2009
  15. OlajuwonShake34

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    As for people who said he got outcoached, I agree completely. Has he ever out-coached Phil Jackson? It seems like Phil is his Kryptonite.

    I don't even think Adelman's Kings ever won a series against the Shaq-Kobe Lakers either.
     
    #55 OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009
  16. Pringles

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    Wrong. Please post where it states Rick didn't want Tracy to get surgery.
    There are only two people at fault for Tracy. That is himself and the doctor.

    At least he gone to the finals, while your boy Tracy hasn't.

    And his gameplan is not identical, not even somewhat. He actually tries to use Yao, instead of ignoring him. It seems like you think we've been ignoring Yao, well in reality, we've been trying to force the ball to our go to guy. And Rick's team has always been Top 5-10 in the league in defense, nowhere close like the Phoenix Suns.
     
    #56 Pringles, Mar 11, 2009
  17. OlajuwonShake34

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    He was injured during JVG's last year as a coach. Yao was just fine and he scored 39 points against the Lakers then as well.

    Just to let you know, JVG many times altered roles of T-Mac and Yao. He would usually try to get Yao as his main guy but since he got injured half of the time he just went back to T-Mac, and said he would be their go to guy.

    Your Yao hate is amazing.
     
    #57 OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009
  18. Pringles

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    Love how you posted that after you posted that it was Rick who didn't want Tracy to have surgery.
     
    #58 Pringles, Mar 11, 2009
  19. UTAllTheWay

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    It's not perfect evidence, but I'm not "making stats up".

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playbyplay?gameId=290311010

    With Yao in the game (which usually meant Yao was guarding him) Pau Gasol went 9-14. With Yao on the sideline, Pau went 0-4.
     
    #59 UTAllTheWay, Mar 11, 2009
  20. OlajuwonShake34

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    I mis-worded that, I was actually wondering why it mattered so much to him that T-Mac didn't report to the Rockets that he was getting surgery. Considering the fact that he is not even relevant to this team anymore this season.
     
    #60 OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009
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