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Don't you guys think Adelman deserves blame for this too?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by OlajuwonShake34, Mar 11, 2009.

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Does Adelman deserve blame?

Poll closed Mar 18, 2009.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

    58 vote(s)
    25.7%
  1. comehere2

    comehere2 Member

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    of course.

    he has been outcoached for god know how many times.

    slow to react. lose control of the situation.


    i refuse to believe he is a good coach for us.
     
  2. OlajuwonShake34

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    Yao did bad? Did you not take a look at his FG% or his points?

    He was terrible on the rebounding side and that's about it. Adelman has more blame than just not coaching Yao good enough. Adelman doesn't know when to play his players during certain situations.

    I respect Mr. Rick Adelman for his loyalty to his players, but as a Rockets fan I want to win and I am not confident that Adelman's coaching gameplan can lead the Rockets there.
     
  3. 34to11

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    That seems to be the case.
     
  4. RV6

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    he's definitely at fault also. He's still going for his starting lineup even when the bench is playing better. He needs to be more assertive sometimes and not just let them flow freely. I know his offense is based on free flowing offense and reacting to things as they happen on the court, but sometimes you have to step in and say "quit doing this" or "do this more" and he's either not doing it or they're not listening.
     
  5. tmacandyming1

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    I blame Adelman for not giving Chuck playing time and I think starting the half off with Artest on Kobe would have been better
     
  6. leonking

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    We only had two games that Yao played in the beginning of 2nd and 4th quarter since Adelman was here, Bulls and Lakers, and we lost both of them

    What a great invention from Adelman!
     
  7. RV6

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    Nah Yao didn't get more shots because he couldn't seal off gasol. When he did get the shots he made them, which is why it sucks that he couldn't shoot more and he couldnt shoot more because he couldn't seal him off to get the entry pass. It's definitely Yao's fault too.
     
  8. el_locoteee

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    Chuck?

    Man we couldn't hit a shoot and Lakers were all over Yao and you want Cuck to play?
     
  9. Exiscion

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    Why? Did Adelman cause Ron and Shane to go 0-12 from 3-pt range? Did he pull a magic trick and make Yao disappear in the 2nd half?
     
  10. OlajuwonShake34

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    I agree, he couldn't seal him off as well as he probably could have. From looking at it, Battier and Brooks have no clue how to pass it to him either.

    As I said before, We can't have a laid back, Hey that's fine just don't do it again coach. We need somebody who is going to completely scream at somebody if they make a bad mistake. Avery Johnson and Rudy T. probably would be the answer, even though Rudy was quite laid back himself. Rudy is smart enough to win though.

    Rick Adelman's system is more suited for the Prime Tracy McGrady, not the Yao Ming of the league.
     
  11. el_locoteee

    el_locoteee Member

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    He could take one of them and put wafer in when the other team is going on a 26-6 run, just saying.
     
  12. saleem

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    Adelman is proving to be just as stubborn as JVG.
     
  13. 34to11

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    Exactly.
    I guess we should blame him for the 23 turnovers too. :rolleyes:

    Let's look at it for what it is...a bad game against a really good team.
     
  14. joesr

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    again off topic

    but anywhose, adelemans loyalty to starters is killing us
    its too close to the PO's to be finding chemistry now, we want a home court seed so play whose playing good
     
  15. SuperStar

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    Obviously Adleman knows since he has gotten further than Yao in the playoffs.

    1)Not Aldeman's fault Yao couldn't grab a rebound to save his life.
    2)Not Aldeman's fault Yao couldn't seal his man out and turned the ball over.
    3)Not Aldeman's fault Yao choked in the 4th qtr.


    After a bad game by Yao

    1)Blame teammates for not getting Yao the ball
    2)Blame coach for playing Yao the wrong way.

    Since Tmac is out, there's no other superstar scapegoat to use.
     
  16. OlajuwonShake34

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    A disciplined coach would never let that happen, Ever.... If you ever saw a game like that in the 1st place from a coach that yells and restricts everybody you would never see that game happen again.

    Adelman treated this game like a playoff game. He only played 3 reserves, gave the starters way too many minutes especially Yao Ming.

    Considering the fact that, we are playing 4 games in 5 nights, goes to show you how well Adelman knows what to do. :rolleyes:
     
  17. UTAllTheWay

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    There are some games where I think the Rockets would be better suited without Yao...

    Tonight was one of those games. First off, people keep talking about how he went like 5-7 or 6-7 or whatever it was... and that's all fine and good, but when you are getting schooled defensively (Pau was eating Yao alive) and you're giving up easy rebounds, you're hurting the team. Add in the fact that the offense completely stops just to give you the ball... and you're pretty much useless.

    If there is one thing I wish Adelman would have done tonight, it would have been to team up Scola and Landry more.
     
  18. Spacemoth

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    You can blame Adelman for his hands-off style of coaching, but like managing in baseball it's going to come down to a matter of "the grass is greener on the other side"--if you're winning, then he's right to let the players have control; if you're losing, then everyone wants JVG back.

    Here's one thing I am thankful for--though we can never be sure how much this team would have been different had JVG stayed on (I've heard all the arguments, from "Yao Ming wouldn't be such a p*ss" to "Landry and Brooks would never have developed"), I for one do not want to gouge my eyes out when I watch us win a game. This was not the case in many JVG-led games, where it just became a battle of attrition, a "who can get to 80 first" game or "who can get their FG% to 40" struggle. It makes me wonder if JVG has ever taken an easy dump in his life. I bet he has inflammatory bowel syndrome. Stress is the #1 cause after all.

    My .02 cents.
     
  19. OlajuwonShake34

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    You know you would have a point if you knew how to Spell Adelman right.

    First off, when T-Mac was playing, I would never blame him for Yao having a bad game. T-Mac made a Yao a better player in my opinion. Rick Adelman's game plan is just not suited for a Yao Ming, it's suited for a prime T-Mac. It was a mistake since Day 1.
     
  20. OlajuwonShake34

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    9-18 really isn't eating anybody alive, considering it's lower than his average FG%.
     

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