Don't think we're getting screwed by the refs? Think again.

Disagree. The 14 point lead the Jazz had tonight was probably the biggest lead any teams had all series. To claim that those tacky foul calls on Scola's rebounding; the little bump fouls on defense they keep calling the Rockets for; the unusual amount of late calls (which reaks of conspiracy); to claim these things aren't making the differnece is wrong.

You would think that with all the flopping Utah does the refs would more inclined to side with the Rockets on calls. I do believe in NBA conspiracies, and the only reason the league doesn't fine floppers is because flopping actually helps the refs decide the outcome.

 

When was the last time a team hit every free throw they've attempted?

 

They don't have to hit every FT to make up for the point deficit in a loss. I refuse to to join the pack and blame the refs rather than look at what we can control.

 

Friday. Hornets were 100% and they still lost the game.

 

T-mac still needs to hit more than 50% of his FTs, since he gets the most calls. 8 more free attempts will only convert to 4 pts on 50% shooting.

Kobe's FT shooting
Game 1 92.9% FT 13-14
Game 2 88.9% FT 8-9
Game 3 60% FT 3-5

T-Mac's FT shooting
Game 1 71.4% FT 5-7
Game 2 55.6% FT 5-9
Game 3 55.6% FT 5-9
Game 4 50.0% FT 4-8

 

Yeah, but the refs seem to have a knack for blowing game-deciding calls.

 

When I watched the game last night, I do feel that the refs were in favor of Jazz. They especially punished the front court of the Rockets. For playoff games, refs can easily change the momentum and the results of games. The ESPN commentators even mentioned that the refs should let go of several foul calls on Scolar and Landry.

 

Scola needs to initiate more contact and stop making small fouls. He needs to take more free throws and foul hard on the uncontested layups Deron's getting. Hopefully, he'll pick up those skills next year.

 

Scola and Landry both called for p***y nothing fouls while surrounded by hard hacks by Jazz across arms and wrists all game NOT CALLED.

Landry, Mutombo cannot make an inside OR without being slapped by 3 to 4 Jazz and unable to put the ball back up - usually with no call - which is why they have begun to just try to throw the ball back out to the perimeter. Even the commentators say the Jazz allow no layups or putbacks. So we started playing D the same way in game 3. We look more like the Jazz every game.

And Tmac is the anti-Wade, the anti-Iverson. He is a perimeter player who the opposing team is allowed to put hands all over, slap hard continually - that is all Kirilenko's game is, bump, bump, and bump again. (Artest on Tmac anyone?) If this was the Miami - Dallas series of several years ago, Tmac would have 35 FT's and then make at least 20 of them. It has been like this since Tracey came here - no calls, while Rafer gets called for lightly running his fingers on another guard's shoulder while the guard is blowing past him on his way to the basket.

But give Tmac a break - his shoulder probably looks like a purple and green bullseye.

And don't forget Stoudemire a few weeks ago 20 ft's on 15 possessions, more ft's than the entire Rockets team if I remember. The refs just seem to decide ahead of time what is going to happen and then reality be dammed! I remember us playing Philly a few years ago and Juwan commented everyone would clear totally out of AI's way as he drove, and the refs would still assign a foul to someone.

I thin I will buy me some tickets for that "real" wrestling stuff where people get hit with chairs and live to talk about it.

 

ask Mark Cuban - Miami vs Dallas anyone?

 

The no-calls are exactly why McGrady doesn't drive to the basket often. He gets massacred for nothing. That would make me a jumpshooter, too. I can forgive him for that.

 

I will tell you what that call on Hayes for a blocking foul with 7:29 in the 4th on Harpring was utter BS....Harpring grabs his arm and flails away like he was fouled.

Pathetic....

Utah is not going any where this year, they are just not that good of a team.

They are barely beating a Houston team that is seriously injured and short on talent.

I do wish the refs would clean up the series though...all this grabbing and crap is not basketball......

Call it like the regular season.....it just ruins a great game.

Also, if Tmac doesn't like the calls he needs to SCREAM at the refs and get a tech....bring it up in the media after the game etc....don't just lay on the ground and take it.



DD

 

JVG tried that and only got fined over $100k. Just face it. The refs are, and always will be, against us.

 

Rockets should take care of the little things like free throws and rebounds. If they do both the Rockets will be making plans to play the Lakers.

 

Of course, this ignores the fact that the Jazz are also one of the most fouled teams in the NBA, while the Rockets are one of the least fouled teams in the NBA. This is probably because of our dependence on jump-shooting and their reliance on an inside game.

I don't have actual foul numbers, but for the season, the Jazz were #2 in free throw attempts per game. The Rockets were 25th. Given that, the equal fouls not really a sign of anything. The Jazz foul more than most teams, but the Rockets don't get fouled all that much. The Rockets foul less than most teams, but the Jazz get fouled a lot. At the end of the day, it all balances out.

 

Well when your jumpshot isn't falling and your already shooting 5-19, I think you should take your chances and attack the basket. Its a higher percentage shot and you may get the contact and foul instead of jacking up another a 24+ footer.

You saw when Tmac drove and extended past Boozer? Thats what he should've been doing the majority of the time. He can get past any of them anytime if he chooses.

It was a combination of both r****ded calls/no-calls and Rockets mishap that contributed to the lose.

 

Utah grabs on every possession, especially on the screens, they grab and swing around the screener....Harpring did it all night...so does Korver.

The lack of calling hand checks as fouls is hard to watch. I prefer that teams play with their feet but the Refs are letting them just grab.....both sides.

This is ugly ball, reminds me of the Knicks vs Rockets 1st championship season.

Just plain out ugly......it ruins the game.

Oh, and someone explain to Alston that Williams almost always goes right?

Thanks,

DD

 

I totally agree with you, but I can see why McGrady gets discouraged from driving to the basket.

 

NBA officiating is trash. Okur definitely pushed in the back to get that rebound last night. And that game 2 foul on scola which negated Tmac's basket was also crap.

that's a 3-1 houston series right there.

yeah all the drones will come in and go "refs dont decide games" "how about all the other blown calls in those games" etc etc

if NBA officiating was like a true sport like baseball then yeah you can come in with those arguments. a strike is a strike, just because Arod is at bat in game 7 of the world series a strike isn't suddenly gonna become a ball. Just because TO is going for a touchdown and cuz the refs have "given" the cowboys a few bad calls that night, a dropped ball doesn't suddenly become pass interference.

but in the NBA that does happen. everyone, and I mean everyone the players, fans, commentators, coaches, reporters, sponsors, league officials take as axiom that fouls in the NBA are combinations of 1)actual physical contact which is legally defined as "fouls" and 2)discretion of refs. no other legitimate sport in the world has an idea of something like "make-up call" "calls for superstars" "rookie isn't going to get that call" "you're not going to get that call on the road" in its sports lexicon.

in the case of a sport that does, it's perfectly legitimate to question why or why not a call is made in the last 2 minutes of a playoff game that largely impacts the outcome esp. if you saw something and did not decide to blow the whistle, WHY did you do so? if you decided to call something that you've been allowing a player to do all night, WHY did you do so? you just gave them the game man. as a fan to act as if "everything balances out" or that it's okay to be inconsistent is to be naive. everything does not balance out, that would be impossible and refs do have a huge impact in the NBA. as a fan it's being responsible to your team to hold the refs accountable

 

The point is that the Rockets twice put themselves in position to tie or win the game, and twice had that taken away from them by poor calls (Battier's foul on Korver, the foul on Okur).