Donte had a couple of good games like this in summer league when we had him...especially the hot from downtown part. I think the very firts game he was on fire...which allowed us to trade him. You can't trade nothing for something. We had to trade some talent, or potential talent, for Ron Ron. And as much as I don't want Artest on this team anymore, last year can only be concluded as a success, considering the injuries. We got past the first round for the first time in over a decade. Donte could become an all-star, and the trade still would have been worth it. I don't think Donte will become an all-star, but I do think he will develop into at least a solid NBA'er. He's still really really young. Sacramento is definitely improving. And they are doing so without Kevin Martin. I think if Martin comes back, add another lottery pick, maybe entice a free agent (they should have money in the off-season assuming they renounce their rights to all their free agents, which shouldn't be a problem), and they could grow into something. Most impressive for Greene, really, was the six blocks. Tyreke Evans went for 19, 11 and 7. And Spencer Hawes, Thompson, heck even Omri Casspi are all nice young players.
donte has been having a few VERY VERY good games lately. this wasn't just his first one. and b/c of that, he's slowly gettin big minutes lately (not consistent minutes, but if he does play well, he'll get 30+ minutes). donte is still inconsistent, but you can see glimpses of his potential. i mean, it's always a great asset when you have an athletic big guy who can stroke it. and he's stroking it recently, along with other facets of his game. i hope he does well. he never got an opportunity with us, and now he has it with the kings. you always wish players to do well in the NBA. you guys should watch the kings a little more. they're a very fun team to watch right now, and they have good young talent.
I don't care how good Greene becomes - the deal Morey pulled off to get Artest here was epic and will always go down as one of the best steals in NBA transaction history, though nothing compares to the Lakers getting Gasol, but it still ranks way up there.
The big question is: who do you prefer, Greene or Budinger? Had we stuck with Greene, then probably not much chance we'd go for another wing in Budinger. I think if you give Budinger a starting job and big minutes, then he probably puts up some big stats too. (although it IS worth noting that on the season, Budinger is statistically superior in every category save for ppg and bpg. The ppg advantage for Greene is on the back of a 56 fg% - which surely won't be maintained?) There are times that a team needs to 'swing for the fences' - and even if Greene ends up becoming an all-star, the RIGHT move was to make the trade. We HAD to try and contend last season. And, let's also realize that Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady finished the season on the sidelines. Had either of them been in playing shape, things MAY have finished differently...
Don’t look now but there’s a thread in the GARM that belongs in the Dish. I’ll take Budinger over Greene any day. btw that was against the Knicks…..I wonder if Nate scored any points for the Kings
Donte has actually had some pretty good games this year. I've watched about 5 games and u can see the offensive talent. He's a talent and who know how he will turn out. On the cool, the kings have rebuilt with some pretty good young players.
really? Donte Greene has started a few games and stacked some stats. As a PART of my reply, I ended by saying that Budinger would probably put up some stats if he played starter minutes anyway. Then followed that by noting (in parenthesis so as not to confuse the point being made) that Budinger is generally putting up better numbers than Greene on the season anyway. Did you hit 'quote' on the wrong post?
Greene blossoming only proves even further how good of a drafter Morey is. The trade was fine, regardless of how Greene shows up. Just because we didn't win the championship doesn't mean we shouldn't make such gambles.
...except Budinger's played more minutes than Greene this year. If anything, it's the other way around. If Greene got as many minutes as Budinger has, Greene's numbers would be even better. I simply cannot comprehend how you could actually believe this. It's that absurd. http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=Cij6H How can you possibly look at those numbers and argue, with a straight face, that Budinger's numbers are better than Greene's? That's not a rhetorical question, I'm truly interested to hear your explanation. I mean, Greene's TS% is nearly 200 points higher than Budinger's for christ sake! Do you have any idea how massive a difference that is? Any at all?!
How was it a failed attempt? This is a useless thread; I've read the first page, only to find out that people (and this is sarcasm) really really want Brian Cook to play! Needless to say, I didn't read the second page onward. He isn't even a Rocket anymore. I thought this entire subcategory was about "Game Action and Roster Moves" about the HOUSTON ROCKETS, not about some trade we've done.
I do have EVERY idea how massive a difference that is. Unfortunately (for you) that's not the ONLY statistic that counts. Take rebounding (for example): Budinger is over 3 per contest, Greene under 2. There's well more than a 150% difference there. Or perhaps you'd like to look at assists? Budinger actually IS 200% better than Greene in that area. Now you state that Budinger has 'played more minutes' - but SURELY someone as statistically astute as you claim to be would realize that Budinger has not STARTED a game this season, and has had just one game where he played more than 25 minutes. Greene has started 3, 27,33 and 35 minutes - SURELY you realise that more time on the court leads to a bigger slice of the statistical sandwich? All I'm suggesting is that if Budinger played starter minutes in, say, 3 games, he could probably rack up some serious numbers. For what it's worth, Greene's bench numbers are to the tune of 5ppg. The whole thing isn't as cut and dried as you might like it to be? So, no, I don't think my statement that, generally speaking, Budinger's numbers are better IS as absurd as you'd like it to be. Sure, Greene's SHOOTING % is making a significant difference in a few areas - but if you believe that's anything more than an extreme hot streak then you win. Anyway - do your research, come to your conclusions - I can't read this thread again because the page is too wide
