Don't ever scream for Sage Rosenfels to start again.

I don't think Schaub ever tried to hurdle a couple of defensive players...also not many people are talking about the stretch for the first down...ANY player would know that only works for TDs...WTF was he thinking?!?

The funny thing is that even if Sage came down with the first down when he John Elwayed in the air and got the first down, the play would of been negated due to the hold.

You can NEVER give Peyton Manning that many chances to beat you, you're just asking for it. He did it to Tampa about 4-5 years ago. (Or I think it was Tampa on MNF)

 

i remember that tampa game, manning and harrison went buck wild.
that was the game where keyshawn said he was better than harrison, and harrison made him look like a scrub.

 

who went down faster, Kimbo Slice or Texans lead?

 

Actually, the funny thing is that if he did make that leaping first down and we won the game, everyone would be praising him and saying, "what a true warrior!", but since he didn't, everyone wants this mediocre quarterback to pack up and leave.

Most sports fans base their judgment on the last game played, however it may have went.

 

If he didn't fumble, they still would have replayed the down...there was a hold that was called. It would of been 3rd and 15 or so

I don't care who the quarterback is, if it's Sage or Schaub, I just want the Texans to win.

 

You don't get it, a loss like that is a momentum killer.

 

You do understand the difference, right?

Schaub wouldn't be stupid enough to try and jump over a defensive back for meaningless yards with a 17 point lead. Slide, protect the ball, then punt. On the roll out, keep the ball up...not down by your hip. Again...only Sage's fault there.

It's rare in a sport where there are 22 guys on the field at any given time that you an say a loss is directly attributed to one player. It's almost always a team effort. Not this time. This was one player's fault...period.

 

yes. that was another heartbreaker for me.

 

they'd need to go 8-4 to get to 8-8

they'd need to go 7-5 to get to 7-9

I don't see it.

 

Nope. I was screaming at the tv for him to slide BEFORE the hit was made. That was just plain dumb football. You didn't need the first down: you needed to eat clock. You can do that on the defensive side of the ball, too.

Besides, on a team where the starter is questionable, and there really is no 3rd string option, you, as the backup, must realize how much is riding on your health. What if someone had taken out one of his knees? Is the first down really worth leaving your team without a serviceable QB?

 

let's not get carried away; he's still a better than servicable back-up - a neccessity when matt schaub is your starting QB.

but yes, this is generally what happens when back-ups get increased exposure - they are, well, exposed. sage rosenfels was, is and will always be a back-up QB; you don't suddenly "get it" at 30, 31 years of age.

but my bigger beef is still with the playcalling; why they were doing anything but running the football remains a mystery to me. and, again - i haven't seen it: was the first fumble a designed scramble? or was it a pass play that broke down? frankly, i have a problem with either call: they're both dumb and unusually risky.

hand the ball to your running backs, drain clock, force indianapolis to use TOs, win the game. football is a simple game; you don't need to muck it up with muckitymuck.

 

ric, one thing I was going to point out is that AJ's potential is maximized for some reason under sage. other than that, I didn't see the game and I really don't know what happen, just looking at AJ's stats and referring to the discussion from friday

 

Bingo. Why they didn't throw out all pass plays at that stage of the game is beyond me. Slaton started slow but was getting stronger and stronger. GIVE HIM THE DAMN BALL! Let him help you win the game! No...Kubes had to get tricky. Run the ball. Run the clock. Punt. Play defense like you did for the previous 50 minutes...not that prevent crap that led to their 2nd td.

 

It looked to me like there was simply a renewed drive to get him the ball. They were hitting him on the bubble screens and letting him do the work. It was a play that has worked very well in the past and they had gone away from it for some reason. He's bigger, stronger, faster, and more agile than most DB's attempting to cover/tackle him. Give him the ball quick and let him work.

I think we'll see much more of it from Schaub from now on...

 

The first fumble was a naked boot, and the Colts bit HARD...The playcall for that was a GREAT call, but poorly executed...it wouldn't have mattered anyway, as it would of been called back for holding

Sage made some STUPID decisions, the two fumbles and almost losing the ball stretching out to get a first down near the goal line

 

you could see that fumble coming from a mile away. you knew it was going to happen before it happened.