Don't ever scream for Sage Rosenfels to start again.

he's had one good game in four

 

That's true if you ignore the 379 yards passing. David Carr, in his entire career, never threw for that many yards in a game.

Schaub vs. Sage depends on what you want. Sage is probably (despite last week) the better game manager. He's going to be steady and OK. Schaub is going to do a lot more good things, and probably a lot more bad things. But in the long-run, it's a lot more likely for a QB like Schaub to improve by cutting down on the bad things than a QB like Sage to add good things.

 

i would call yesterday's game "good;" i'm not sure what criteria would knock it down. he brought the team back from 3 deficits, including an impressive game-winning drive in which he scored the winning TD on the game's final play.

 

1 td, two interceptions, less than 55% passing

 

exactly. sage is 31 - we've seen his ceiling; he's not going to ever get better. schaub has room for growth and improvement; a much higher ceiling. he just started his 17th game; 15th under kubiak.

 

he played well at the end, but it took a miracle grab by the receiver you don't think is a playmaker on 4th down to keep that game alive.

 

What would you say about a guy like rich ganon?

 

sage is 30 matt is 27

 

he scored two TDs, pgabriel - remember the game-winner with :03 left? he overcame the early interceptions and led his team to victory.

six of his incompletions, including a spike, came on the final, frantic drive. if johnson or wilson hold onto to the football earlier, though, the team's likely not having to score with a 1:45 left and one TO.

it was a "good" game by any measure.

 

johnson had a great game and made a spectacular catch - which made-up for his near game-clinching fumble.

but schaub also completed a 20-yard pass to davis before that and his 30-yard pass to walter after was a thing of absolute beauty on both ends.

 

and he almost threw a pic on the drive. but that's neither here nor there, he gets paid a bunch, we gave up a bunch, and in year two after four games he's got a sub 75 rating. that's not acceptable, he isn't some 24 year old second year player, if you give up picks for a guy who's been in the nfl, he needs to be competent coming in.

and even worse, he's gotten worse. he was great at the jump, his september rating starting out last season, a 101, you would have a legitimate argument about giving him time if he weren't getting worse.

the same argument you apply to rosenfels can be applied to schaub. maybe he was just a great backup. maybe when having to play a full season he is at best average

 

so by your logic, he played out of his mind against indy's first stringers, the second stringer argument doesn't work when he's put up numbers in games that count, even if you bold "second stringer"

 

i've always maintained we gave up too much for him; you'll get no argument from me there. you do not send two 2s for a QB not named brady or manning.

he also lost their best offensive player last year for 7 games. when johnson played, schaub's ratings last year were 101.5, 119.2, 112.3, 78.0, 80.4.

i'm not schaub's biggest supporter; and sure - this is possible. but it's much too early to make that determination, IMO.

 

fair enough ric, my problem isn't schaub or sage, my problem is this notion that no one should think sage has a chance to start

 

sage has been a better texan starter than matt in stats and wins

yes, if you count 4-2 since last season as fumbling away, then you would be correct. mighty high standards for the sagester