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Donnie wants a safe space

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by shastarocket, Nov 19, 2016.

  1. val_modus

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    Right, the liberals are so unprofessional. Like screaming "YOU LIE" in the middle of a state of the Union address, or calling the president Mr Obama instead of president Obama during a Fox "News" interview.
     
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    Sounds eerily similar to Stalin's reaction to Shostakovich.....
     
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    LOL "an artist's job is to make people smile" Yeah, like you know how Romeo commits suicide due to a mistake, and then one minute later Juliet commits suicide? I just smile my ass off at the end of that play. It's like, art 'n' ish. It's almost as happy as Hamlet, or Othello, or King Lear, or The Tempest. Or Death of a Salesman. Or A Streetcar Named Desire. Or The Cherry Orchard. Hell they're all smilers (that's what I like to call them), which lets me know, that's art right there!
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    Pointing out that others have been unprofessional too doesn't change the fact that there was a lack of professionalism on display by the actors in this instance.
     
  5. sugrlndkid

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    No, it doesn't. It showed that your statement was full of crap though. Apologize now! ;)
     
  7. Amiga

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    Is that really an official account from Trump?
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    The vice president serves WE THE PEOPLE and an artist is as much of a person/citizen as the rest of all professions that reside in this country and part of service is hearing the complaints from whom you serve as long thay are expressed in a calm respect manner as Dixon did.
     
  9. No Worries

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    Suck it up, buttercup.
     
  10. durvasa

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    They were respectful, addressed him as "Sir". And the message was very benign. I applaud the cast members for speaking their conscience.

    And Trump's response, as one might expect, is embarrassing.
     
  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Trump should have ignored it. That being said, again, as a patron, I do not want politics brought up at an event I attend, especially one I spend hundreds of dollars to attend. I am there to be entertained not to hear a politcial statement, whether I agree with it or not.

    Even at that, the cast could have made their statement without singling out Mr. Pence.
     
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  12. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Yeah, how do you process it? I think it's embarrassing, definitely. Not surprising, given that we know who he is. I do think it's alarming b/c our enemies abroad will be watching these ridiculous, thin-skinned, authoritarian (honestly) reactions to things.

    But here's my question for you. Is it just and eye-roll embarrassing thing, or is it a horrible sign, a la this guy Dean O. :
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/20/opinions/trump-tweets-on-hamilton-snl-obeidallah/index.html

    He's very worried it's a sign of things to come from our POTUS elect wanting to censor people and suppress speech. I think he may *want* to do that, but I honestly don't think he'll get very far with it here in America. I could be very wrong. If his band of far right advisors get us into a major war, (or a minor war that they amp up with hysteria), however, ... that's when everything will change and he'll start making major demands on our civil freedoms. That's when it gets super scary, and I pray we don't go down that path.
     
  13. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I hear this. And it's cool b/c you can make your feelings known here and then you can make sure you never go see that play. You can vote with your voice and your wallet.

    It's sad that Trump will normalize so much vulgarity, as a leader, and cross so many ugly lines in his speech (and tweetage). But I wish he would also not then cross the line of attacking people's right to criticize him (or anyone else). That's a very sad line to see him crossing as an elected public executive in America.
     
  14. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Except that I can't. I have already spent the money. If I know prior to attending that the cast will pontificate on something politcal (not included in the performance) I can make an informed choice, but patrons don't know. And, to reiterate, Trump should have ignored it.
     
  15. Invisible Fan

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    People are easily lead by the nose with trumps tweets.

    It's like Bushisms with more calibration and harsher poison to divert attention away from.
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    LOL, Trump supporters...

    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada...-fire-online-on-canadas-hamilton-theatre.html
     
  17. No Worries

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    I guess I don't see the difference between this and paying for any other product that you end up not liking due to unforeseen consequences that of which you weren't informed. You can ask for your money back, and if you do not get it, you can file complaints, inform others, boycott, and do all the various things that people in these types of situations. Or am I missing your point?
     
  19. ima_drummer2k

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    Clearly...
     
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    He can always go to The_Donald.
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    Reddit and the God Emperor of the Internet

    On the morning of Nov. 9, a moderator who goes by the handle OhSnapYouGotServed posted on a Reddit topic page called The_Donald: “How does it feel, centipedes? The God Emperor said that we would get tired of winning. Are you tired of winning yet? Feel vindicated, centipedes. It’s over and there is nothing they can do about it. We are the future.”

    Within minutes, the post had accrued more than 2,000 comments. Within days, they numbered more than 12,000. Reddit, a hodgepodge of message boards about everything, from kiteboarding to financial advice to Photoshopping human arms onto images of birds, is the eighth-most popular online destination in the United States. The_Donald, devoted, of course, to Donald J. Trump, has become one of the most influential communities within one of the most significant websites on the internet. Yet that post by OhSnapYouGotServed is probably largely incomprehensible to most people.

    The_Donald has around 300,000 members. Some are conservative stalwarts, others are meme-making teenagers; all are anonymous, hidden behind user names, making their origins and motivations difficult to pinpoint. But it’s fair to say that many saw themselves as political outsiders who reveled in rallying for the underdog.

    The community is home to copious Islamophobia, trolling of liberals and near constant bashing of Hillary Clinton. It has evolved a dialect decipherable only to insiders, which includes acronyms like “MAGA” (Make America Great Again); epithets like “God Emperor” (for Mr. Trump); insults like “cuck” (short for cuckold and often deployed against feminists); memes featuring a cartoon frog associated with racism; and nicknames like ’Pedes. (Centipedes, a term for Trump supporters adopted from a YouTube mash-up of the song “Centipede” by the band Knife Party and clips of Mr. Trump’s speeches. It might also be a penis joke. Seriously.)

    This, according to its moderators, was “the largest, best and closest thing to an official campaign subreddit for Donald Trump 2016.” If Barack Obama’s 2008 online presidential campaign was a well-oiled machine that made effective use of supporter data, analytics and social-media tools, Mr. Trump owes some degree of his success to an online mob of rabid, self-organized supporters.

    Politics has always been a popular topic on Reddit. The site came of age during the administration of George W. Bush — and Reddit, in general, despised Mr. Bush. It has leaned liberal-to-libertarian ever since, the most popular candidates being Barack Obama, Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul. Until The_Donald.

    When created by a couple of volunteer moderators in 2015, the community was just one of many straightforward political-support pages (r/SandersForPresident and r/HillaryClinton were already going strong) that sprang up to aggregate news articles from sources such as CNN and The Hill.

    Today The_Donald is something different. Its memes and slang serve as the passwords to an internet speakeasy, a secret club whose rules one moderator justified as existing to create a “safe space” for Trump supporters. “Everyone wants to have a sense of belonging,” Reddit’s chief executive, Steve Huffman, told me last week. “At some point, it becomes almost cultlike.”

    The_Donald’s policy states “no racism/anti-Semitism,” but it also warns “No dissenters or S.J.W.s,” as in social-justice warriors. “Concern trolling,” or questioning views expressed on the subreddit, is also banned.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/opinion/sunday/reddit-and-the-god-emperor-of-the-internet.html
     

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