[Done Deal] Rockets dealing Juwan Howard for Mike James

This is a very good post I respect. Balanced analysis.

 

here here..

at least we swing big when we strike out!

 

Why? Please enlighten me as I am clueless on Reed.

 

Excellent point. Enlightened, unlike most sports teams' FOs.

 

i am too, really. i just thought of it because his salary is about the difference of MJ's and howard's contract. it was purely salary and position matching.

 

the most frustrating thing about the EG deal was that i heard/read that there was some obvious warning signs about the guys character. whether it was a calculated risk or a lack of research...i dont know. When you burn up 3 picks and a great opportunity to rebuild a team, you better be pretty dang sure...i just think they reached too much.

 

Justin Reed is a long, athletic SF (6-8) who is a good defensive player. Feigen referred to him as a "power forward". He is not. Perhaps in an up-tempo, "small ball" lineup, he could play a little PF, but not for extended minutes. I view him as a lankier version of Kirk Snyder, but with less talent. Plus, he just signed a 3 yr./$4.5M contract last summer, so we'll have to pay him about $1.5M this year, and he has a player option for 08-09.

Bottom line: If the Rockets are looking at trading Snyder, then Reed is a decent replacement for the athletic SF off the bench role. If the Rockets want to keep Snyder, I'd pass on Reed.

 

So I guess this means no chance of Stevie Franchise to return back home? Maybe Rafer gets dealt in a packaged trade for a PF because we have too many PGs as of right now. James, Rafer, V-Span and JL3, and you could probably add Head to that list.

Good trade I guess. I'm going to miss Howard. He was the toughest Rocket on our team. Always stood up for his teammates when something confrontational would go down. I just hope James doesn't try to do too much in the offense. I still got images of him waving off T-Mac during the Dallas series. Hopefully, all that would not be a problem.

 

Deckard, please correct me if I'm wrong, but... by reading what our capologists say through the years, I got a somewhat different impression on the trade kicker thing. this is what I remember:

1. TK is a 15% raise, paid by the team traded for the player (Rox)
2. TK could be a problem not necessarily because it means rox need to pay for higher salary, but more because it makes salary matching hard. In other words, by trading MJ to rox, minny has 5.6M salary out, and Rox has close to 6.45M(5.6M*115%) salary in. It's going to be harder to find a matching salary for both teams in the 125%+100k range.
3. If a trade is made impossible by the tk, the player has the option to waive PART of the tk to make the salaries in (2) match - but only to the extend to make the trade legal. In other words, if the trade can be processed with MJ waiving 2% of the trade kicker, he could not voluntarily waive 3%.


If what I remember is somewhat correct, this would neccesarily mean Minny is including another minimum salary in the trade, as MJ's 5.6M outgoing salary is not within JHo's 125%+100k range. and this extra minimum salary player could well be the reason why the two team is still discussing.

-- of course, I'm definitely not a CBA expert. So please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong at any point.

 

Hey, I'm not cap expert at all. I'm going by what I remember reading here, and this was discussed quite a bit. What I read was that James could waive the kicker if he wanted to. Now, maybe he can waive part of it, if he wants. It does complicate a deal, which is the whole point of the damn thing. I think we should get something from Minnie to compensate us if James refuses to waive all or part of the kicker. We're taking on a longer contract, and an expensive one, if the kicker kicks in.

 

Has anyone read this

At about 11 a.m., the deal was about done. There should be an announcement this afternoon. But the teams are stil talking about an addition, discussing forward Justin Reed. He's a good athlete with a good power forward body. He does not execute well in a precision, play-calling offense, but in a more free-flowing offense, could be a good pickup. It probably still a bit of a longshot to get done, but he is what they're talking about.

http://blogs.chron.com/nba/2007/06/together_again_the_rockets_get.html

 

I hope this won't be a deal breaker. We don't need Reed and I'm not in favor of giving up any players for him.

 

I don't want Reed either.

 

If we make some big trades where multiple guys are involved, we're going to need guys just to fill out the roster. I kind of wish there was an Alston/Hassell swap along with this. I'm sure it's not going to happen though.

 

Are you kidding??? Hassell has a big deal. He makes more than Alston and is not nearly the player Alston is. Besides, we don't need him if we have Battier.

 

Just heard on 610.

Said it's a done deal. Howard for MJ, and Justin Reed. Nothing else mentioned.

 

Just saw on the NBATV ticker that the deal is done. Howard for Mike James and Justin Reed.

also interesting reading the Minny newspapers and reading some quotes from MJ, saying he will have a new attitude and wants to change his number etc.

http://www.startribune.com/wolves/story/1244840.html

 

i wouldnt agree with a hassell/rafer swap, but hassell will make 4 million for the next 4 years. its not too horrible of a contract. I dont think he would be too bad of an aquisition. He could certainly guard quicker guards better than battier and considering our best true SG is snyder...i think it would help that position.

 

NICE!

 

Reed is overpaid for a scrub. Having to take his contract, though, shouldn't have been a dealbreaker.