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Donatas Motiejunas - X Factor

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DudeWah, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. jump shooter

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    Yes all day.
     
  2. omgTHEpotential

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    Simple, DMo doesn't rebound at a high clip (leaves a ton of rebounds to guards by boxing out opposing big men), and he's not a guard to have a lot of assists. He's also not a shot-blocker. And a sub-par FT shooter. That's why he doesn't have a great PER. Other than that, DMo's been great.
     
  3. jump shooter

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    And only 5 boards in 35 minutes, come on DMO LOL.
     
  4. sealclubber1016

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    All of D-Mo's numbers are still elevating from his garbage start. Through his first 12 games he was shooting 37%, and 18% from 3. I'd imagine his PER is much closer Jones since then.

    O rating and d rating are complete throwaway stats.
     
  5. vator

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    Why is it a throw away stat? I think you look at multiple different stats and see if you can find correlation or discrepancies and it gives you more data to base your opinions from. There isn't one single stand alone stat out there that I've seen. They all are good at telling you different things. Small pieces of a bigger picture so you look at them all. Harden was 120 and 107 last year and is 117 and 100 this year so far. That seems about right in terms of expressing his on court value to this team. I'm no statistic guru though. I don't have time to do all the research and cross check everything although I do enjoy reading the posts of those that do.

    Yeah maybe you're right. He basically had 1 good game in that first 12. I think he had a PER of like 10 at that time. It is now 13.73 so it is going up, but much slower than I thought it would. He has played 32 more games and has played solid basketball. I just expected it to at least be up to league average by now after 44 games and I'm wondering why it isn't. Almost half a season to go though.
     
  6. sealclubber1016

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    Offensive rating and defensive are determined much more by your situation and teammates than individual excellence.

    Take Tyson Chandler or DeAndre Jordan for example. their offensive rating is usually off the charts because the only shots they ever take are dunks. Naturally in a vaccum they would seem to be insanely efficient players.

    Likewise, playing most of your minutes next to Dwight Howard is gonna make you seem like a solid defensive player.
     
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    To be fair DMo was anchoring this team's defense (3rd in all NBA?) when Dwight was out.
     
  8. sealclubber1016

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    I know, I'm talking about Jones last year.
     
  9. amazingskills

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    I wish Howard would only take dunks...

    btw whats with all those alleyups missed by Dwight? .. are those on poor passers or its on Dwight?... i cant remmebr ever seeing de andre jordan missing alley ups..
     
  10. watashi315

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    I think it's time D-Mo gets upgraded to 2nd option. Howard needs to stop posting up. It bogs down our offense and he's a poor FT shooter.
     
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    Agreed. Not to mention that when Dwight is posting-up it's DMo who is left with the task to get the offensive rebounds and putbacks, which is one of his weaknesses! It would make so much more sense for DMo to post-up and Dwight be the clean up guy, since they both excel at those respective areas.
     
  12. amazingskills

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    thnx beautiful observation!
     
  13. DaDakota

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    As I have said, a good coach would be able to make that happen - by defining roles.

    DD
     
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    The other thing with DMO post ups is that if it is not there or he is not having his way, DMo is quick to realize that and kick it out for different looks.

    With Dwight, he just pounds and pounds the ball and looks to force it which often results in a turnover or some weird brick.
     
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    Dwight did do that last night.

    Once he got fouled with a no call, and the other he powered Vucevic for an and 1. That was impressive.
     
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    Dmo is great. I've been watching him playing as Rockets from the start. He always had those amazing post up moves. All he needed was same constant playing time. I just don't get it why teammates like Ariza and Bev is ignoring him. I think Rockets is elite team, have talent, young guys but one thing is missing, that thing is the coach. IMO mchale doesn't know to do with this team and lead it to winning.
     
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    Here is how PER is calculated:
    http://www.basketball-reference.com/about/per.html

    As you can see, it is pretty much boxscore driven. (The only "advanced" stats in the formula is rebound percentage.) Boxscore numbers are very skewed toward offensive usage. Most of big stars are high usage offensive players. That's why PER generally is good at picking out the best stars. But if you use it on role players, you'll see very strange results.
     
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    so how much are we going to pay demo. i know some team will offer ibaka money for a seven footer who can't chew gum and dunk, now a seven footer with skills? pay me, morley!
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    He's signed through 2015-16. Then is he a restricted FA?

    May be another Parsons situation. He's probably not worth the max.
     
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    PER is just one stat though. In terms of Win Shares and rapm he's above average.

    PER may be low because he doesn't get a lot of steals, blocks or assists. And his efficiency is average because he doesn't get to the line a lot.

    But he can create his own shot, which is somewhat unquantifiable. And he plays good D and passes well even if the "counting" stats don't show up.
     

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