Milsap the Atlanta Hawks PF grabbed 8 offensive rebounds in 35 minutes, someone needs to box out and grab the rebound.
bobby is wrong and heypartner is right. The problem was not offense. It was clearly defense and inability to control the boards that allowed such a bad shooting team to get more possessions and score more than us at the end.
Hawks shot like 50 3s. Rebounds from missed 3 pointer go a long distance so it's hard to do anything about it. Random. I see u trying to blame DMo for those 8 rebounds. Don't.
LMFBO Im absolutely not trying to blame DMO for Milsaps 8 offensive rebounds, what I'm saying is it wasn't DMOs lack of touches that lost the game like some of you DMOFs are up in arms about. The Hawks grabbed 17 offensive rebounds and even if those were long offensive rebounds off 3 pointers you still have to "box out" like you guys have been preaching. I for one want to see DMO get more touches out of the block but its still going to take him 20+ games to really get his legs underneath to be one of the focal points in the offense IMO. DMO had much more spring in his legs before the surgery and its going to take him some time to get that back. They basically had a 3 big rotation last night between Howard, Capela and DMO, they for sure missed TJ and some of his athletism in chasing down some of those long rebounds. In the end JBB is going to have to start DMO with Howard for this team to be at its best IMO.
So you say DMo was not boxing out? Since you talk about it in DMo thread. I'd like to point it out, that DMo comes out to 3 point line and switches EVERY time his man sets a screen, so he ends up with a guy who has the ball, a smaller guy. So if that guy continues to drive with DMo on him or just shoot pull up 3, there is NO WAY how DMo can box out on such possessions. DMo's non stop help defense and switching is big reason why he doesn't get rebounds. He plays defense away from basket. Make him stop doing that and just stay with his man - he'll get more rebounds. It's complicated and easy at the same time. Coach Morey could easily do that, but he didn't. So he likes DMo's aggressive help outside of the paint.
And I feel the need to repeat myself: Rockets were outrebounded in all 3 games prior to this, were DMo played just 6 mins. Rebounding shortcomings is not just DMo's fault. Not even close.
I was simply pointing out that you were changing your argument. That's not an insult. Of course they would, but once again, you're changing the argument. Who cares if Howard is a superstar? It's not for his offensive abilities, and right now, we're strictly talking about offense. This should be obvious to anyone following the conversation. Frankly, it looks like you've finally realized you're wrong and are trying to make your arguments increasingly general, hoping to stumble into an undeniable fact, and trying to save face.
Guess what? He plays the same position in defence as the other 4s (capella jones) and hes required to do what they do. The whole defensive sheme wont be recalibrated to hide dmos inefficiencies in rebounding in space. And guess what? Rebounding is never fixed in a player. Either you know the angles and you are aggresive or you arent. Such an awful rebounder as dmo if its not his health and condition will never ever become a good rebounder. But since dmo is the centre of the universe and why this forum is infested with so many Dmo only fans we should change everything to make dmo look better.
Please go back and read sir, I'm on line with everything I posted. Wrong about what? And dude stop taking my comments as some type of arguments. For you to even bring that up clearly means you're the one that's trying to turn this to an argument. Clear case, you claiming that I'm wrong. This is why find these sports blogs so darn funny. People always try to twist what people type on here. Especially when they're a fan of a certain player instead of the team. Like I said things flow through Harden and Howard, role players plays their specific roles period. Now when your Superstar is out, then role players have to step their games up. Last season Dmo stepped his game up with was much needed. This season you have a healthy Howard so back to reality for Dmo and the rest of the role players.
No, you're not. You've been moving the goalposts of the argument. First, you said that DMo's post game wasn't part of the Rockets philosophy. So I brought up his success in the post last year. Then you said that since Dwight was healthy, he should get the post opportunities since he's the "superstar". You're wrong about Howard deserving offensive touches b/c he's a superstar. There are different types of superstar. Do you also thing that Howard should attempt more 3 pointers? After all, he's a "superstar", and 3 pointers are part of the Rockets' offensive philosophy... Just about everything you said in this paragraph is wrong. Actually, the only thing you got right was that DMo stepped up his game last year. Every other sentence? Sheer ignorance.
Highlight when I said Howard deserves touches. I said he complained about his touches and now we're feeding him the darn ball. That's a fact Ole smart one. My other point is, he's valued by the Rockets organization as a Superstar. How in the hell is that ignorant. Again since you're wrong you want to attack my comments with childish insults. Asking me do I think Howard should be taking three pointers is a very ignorant question. Asking that stupid irrelevant question has no darn barring on what I've stated on this topic. And Mr expert tell me why we're not seeing a higher dosage of Dmo's post move. I also said we should post him up more but I guess that blew right over your freaking head. How about you learn the Rockets philosophy first. Oh wait you have an agenda for Dmo on here that's why you don't know the Rockets game plan.
Here you go: Both of those statements imply that Howard deserves touches over DMo. B/c we're talking strictly about offensive touches. The Rockets may view him as a superstar player as a whole, but do you think they view him as a superstar offensive player? Hell no. You know this, but you won't admit you're wrong so you're hiding behind this pathetic "superstars must be utilized more than role players" shtick. Ignorant, stupid, irrelevant question? Absolutely. But that just shows you how ignorant and stupid your arguments are. You keep insisting that Howard is a superstar, and since he's a superstar, he should have a greater role in the offense (at the expense of the "role players"). And since you believe the Rockets' offensive philosophy to be 3 pointers and free throws, then according to your logic, Dwight Howard should be shooting 3 pointers. B/c Harden and Howard have big egos. And you did say that DMo should get more touches, but then you immediately qualified that statement. Do you know what dictates offensive philosophy? The players on the roster. Also, don't you think it's pretty stupid to insinuate that I'm more of a DMo fan than a Rockets' fan? I joined clutchfans long before DMo joined the Rockets.
I did not say he deserves touches and I'm not implying he deserves them either. I said he demanded them and in the last 6-8 games they have been giving him those touches. Big time difference buddy. Dude you really need to stop the nonsense, I am not insinuating anything here, just pointed out the Rockets how Morey and Les view Howard. Go pull up some of Morey's sound bites. He's mentioned several times on how they view Howard. Brother I'm speaking facts. And home boy Howard never been a offensive Superstar to me. But you can best believe you can run your offense through him. Go look at that Portland series as well as last season playoff's run. Howard was a beast on offense. Again Dmo is just a role player right now and that's it. Why can't you understand that. He's not going to get the same type of touches as Harden and Howard right now. Shoots when Jones come back against the Warriors Dmo might not play over 7 freaking minutes. (which is crazy). In the Rockets case you're wrong again. Superstar's dictates our philosophy ( well you're partially right). As you can see we really don't have good three point shooters. This season our best 3 point shooter can't get consistent playing time and might have talked his way into JBB's doghouse. Howard was brought here with the mindset of what he provided for Orlando back in the day. So please stop reading my comments entirely the wrong way. You're cheer picking and for what. But hey you win dude since you're trying so hard to prove me wrong around here. hahahahahaha
I have been in the Dmo is untouchable camp, but am slowly turning against him. He doesn't have much value to the team if he isn't spamming post ups, and we really don't need it. His rebounding and turnover rate are troubling, specifically because those are our biggest weaknesses.
