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Donatas Motiejunas - X Factor

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DudeWah, Nov 23, 2014.

  1. basketballholic

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    Terrence has played 18 games. 18
     
  2. YOLO

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    He's better than them with a few post moves that's it. But in the paint in traffic hes nowhere close to them. The difference is smith and jones don't get scared when the games get tough and dissapear. You just love to focus on the pf position when the pf position is definitely not the weakest area at this point to be worried about
     
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    YOLO

    Terrence is not long enough nor big enough to deal with the double big lineups in the West.
     
  4. YOLO

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    Continue believing what you want. This just brings more fuel later on since you seem to be so adamant about it. Still failing to acknowledge the difference bw now and last year.
     
  5. basketballholic

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    So, right now, we'd face the Clippers in the playoffs if the playoffs started today? Who is Terrence gonna check?
     
  6. J Sizzle

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    Neither Jones nor DMo can check Griffin and Jordan effectively, which is why the Clippers are an especially poor matchup for us.
     
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    so are you saying Jones isn't a difference maker?
     
  8. Tom Bombadillo

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    Not sure anyone except Chuck Hayes can check Blake Griffin.


    Deandre Jordan is Chris Paul. You have to check Paul to check Jordan. Good luck with that...
     
  9. J Sizzle

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    Not what I'm saying at all.
     
  10. basketballholic

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    How's he going to make a difference if Blake and DeAndre dominate him?
     
  11. snowconeman22

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    My God... you guys are a bunch of idiots. All of you raise somewhat valid points , but then either argue incorrectly or make statements that make it clear that the "valid" points are just lucky guesses.

    A full discussion about Dmo and his main "competition " Jones requires time and effort. It also goes back to when both players were drafted and their progress to this point. I'm not gonna do it for y'all , and unfortunately .. it requires more than looking at stats.

    However, just from this season we can see the improvement that DMO has made. It is also clear that DMO is not the same player he was during Dec/Jan. He looks tired, gets gassed easier , and most importantly HAS LOST WEIGHT . DMo came into the season and those first few months looking about 10-20 pounds stronger than he does now. Its obvious that he is worn down and is hitting a rookie wall. I don't know too much about the "wall" and I dont know his chances of getting back some of that strength later on this season.

    More than anyone else, DMO needs dwight to come back and reduce his minutes and also take some of the burden of banging. This is an issue that goes beyond " toughness" or "soft." This is a verifiable trend and one that is easy to spot.

    Another trend that is clear is that DMO's shooting is improving steadily. This is nice.

    Jones coming back is awesome for us and he plays the garbage man role spectacularly. If Jones was 6'11'' then we would be set at center with or without Dwight. He is a different player than DMo and they have different strengths.

    One final thing i will say is that it sucks to see one of your favorite players consistently trashed, even in the face of evidence that screams otherwise. Really, this board isn't the place to do that. Vent, sure . But the vitriol some people have for certain players makes me wonder if they are Rockets fans.... it also confirms my ideas about their intelligence.

    I try not to post to much because they either go unread or misunderstood, however i had to come and vent and defend my boy. Respond if you want to have a discussion and go Rockets .
     
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  12. J Sizzle

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    Not sure, but that assumes they dominate him. They're elite players, so they'll get theirs obviously, but Jones is improving enough (even you can see that), to where I will wait and see how he does over the rest of the season to gauge how I feel about him going into the playoffs.
     
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    He is improving. Yes. But you don't have an answer except wait and see how he does.

    My answer is I've seen enough already. He's still not big enough, still not strong enough, still not long enough to be a difference maker EXCEPT if the matchup favors him. Put him up against Spencer Hawes and you might have something. Glen Davis? Possibly. But Blake and DeAndre? Nope.
     
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    Did the Heat of last year have stars to defend Blake or DeAndre?

    Bron, Bosh? Bosh isn't a lock down defender either. He just does his own thing on Offense.

    Haslem, Andersen, Oden?
     
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    1. Terrence Jones' return will make no difference to this team at all.

    2. Well, okay. What I meant was that he will make no difference when he's matched up against solid defenders.

    3. Well, okay. What I *really* meant was that he will make no difference when matched up against big, solid defenders on playoff teams.

    4. Well, okay. Actually, I meant that he will make no difference when matched against Blake Griffin and Deandre Jordan specifically.

    Tell me more.

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    The start was great, but then he took his 3rd foul...Also b2b great defensive team with active bigs on defense, he did well but he is not strong enough to bang with centers like Gasol
     
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    So it is bad that his defence has improved? Weird. Even if it doesnt stay so low, it is an indicator of something surely??

    Last season he was 54 eFG%. Up 2.4 on when he was off the court. Again, even if the numbers dont stay the same, is it not a good thing that yet again he opens the court up?
     
  18. nolenium

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    Do they allow players to block shots in whatever league/country Motiejuejue came from?
     
  19. RoxBeliever

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    You two are arguing from a slippery slope. You both have valid points but taken to the extreme, it becomes a fallacy.

    In the endgame, TJones helped us tie the game. Even as the single big in a smallball line-up, he hit several crucial shots in the paint, battling both Gasol and ZBo. He however was not able to stop Gasol in the final possession.

    This stretch of games, TJones has had more energy than DMo. The two however cannot anchor the interior defense. A healthy Dwight will solve a lot of our problems.
     
  20. FTW Rockets FTW

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    He needs to stop being a p***y and go out there and dunk the damn ball. Enough of these softy lame lay ups. He is a 7 footer, go out there and dominate the boards. Dunk the ball, rebound the heck out the ball. Intimidate opponents given your size. DMo plays much smaller than he really is. Stop being SOFT
     

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