Disagree. Yes defenses are better at harassing post players these days and flops are everywhere. That said, post offense is a lost art. Hakeem was a master of it and he would have eaten opposing teams for breakfast with his speed, length, accuracy and athleticism.
I apologize, I mistook you for another poster. I still disagree with your post that Dmo cannot back players down (some players are difficult but the same goes for other post players). He is very capable to back players down, or if they are to strong he can get past them by speed. I am very excited about Dmo. I love post players and we have not had one this skilled since Yao. Dmo needs more touches, since he usually does something good with it. I do think he should be more selfish, why give it to Ariza in the corner when he is not wide open?? But I expect that to sink in in a couple of months. But his teammates should look more for him. Harden and Papanikoloau are the only ones who do it regularly. I really do not want both Harden and Dmo sit at the same time, every time that happened (since Dwight is out) our offense became terrible and we had to watch Ariza, Beverly isos
I disagree. Hakeem seldom used his strength to back the defenders down, he used his speed and agility to get past them. I do not think he would get many offensive fouls in today NBA. Players Like Shaq on the other hand would not even play 10 minutes a game with he way refs call the game today. I do agree that it is ridiculous how the refs call post play.
When I say he cannot back people down, I mean it consistently. Of course everyone can post up successfully. Hell, Dwight once in a while shows off a nice spin move. The question has always been consistency. Not just DMo, but just any post player in their ability to consistently create in the post. There's a difference between DMo taking advantage of a nice situation and getting a good shot, and the Rockets force feeding the ball to him. To say one equates the other is the same logic Lin's fanatics demand that Lin gets the ball simply because a few times per game, the circumstances allow him to penetrate off the p&r successfully and get a layup or nice assist. Just because it happens once or five times a game doesn't mean you can keep doing it. The ability to replicate success even when the defense can see it coming is what separates the stars from the rest. DMo right now seems to be on the cusp, but he'll have to show me a bit more consistency.
No, I questioned if was watching the games because he is making false statements. It's not oppinion, it's a simple fact that is visable to the naked eye for anyone to see that happens to watch the games.
Just curious to get everyone's opinion on DMO's value. At the beginning of the season experts predicted the rockets to take a step down due to the losses of parsons in particular, Lin and Asik. DMO was regarded by *many* as a scrub.Even with Dwight missing over 16 games the rockets have improved immensely and DMO played a major role during that stretch. With the current body of evidence, can one confidently say that DMO has more than replaced parsons value and production to the team? Is DMO our third, fourth ... Most valuable player now? There is no doubt he has room to improve so imo his ceiling is close to pau levels ( aware of their game differences and the fact DMO has a 3 point shot ) , and I don't think that is a complete homer assessment. Also, I actually feel like his game is either hitting or on the verge of hitting another level: in the beginning of the season he was practically garbage and stepped up in Dwights absence as an 12-6 guy. Lately, with his improved 3 shot and confident post moves he has been more or less a 17-6 guy with solid d. I feel like with his new found comfort level and the fact the rockets are obviously looking for him more, he could finish the season as an 19/20 - 7 player. He needs to get his rebounding up but seems like the rockets are accepting him as the second scorer.
D-Mo is great in the post. If he gets the touches he will put up a ton of points. I don't see him getting enough touches.
It's only false because like everyone on the internet, I exaggerate. Is he 100% worthless? No. Is he efficient enough where we should make it a bread and butter play? No. Not him and not anyone since the advent of zone defenses in the NBA. People call Dwight worthless in the post all the time. Yet he’s not 100% failure from the post. I would wager that DMo’s FG% when he starts at the post far away is not really any higher than Dwight’s post ups.
If you have SportsVU stats on DMo’s FG% on post-ups that start, say, 16+ft away (whatever my original “far away” converts to in actual data)from the basket, sure, I’m very interested to see the comparison.
I'd like to see points generated per possession every time one of our bigs touches the ball in the post, to take into account shots created from double teams and free throws. Would be an interesting comparison.
This is kind of an useless argument, because neither of them use a midrange jumper, so the only thing that matters is what overall percentage they shoot on their postups. Zach Lowe stated that DMo converts 56% of his post-ups into points, which is a really good number. I'd say Dwight's is significantly worse since he's shooting at 40% on his hook-shots alone.
Except for any play involving Harden, what do you think should be our bread and butter play? A Dmo post up is our best option after any play involving harden. Most point Dmo scores are created by himself (last game was an exception). He is actually not as good as a pick and roll player. His best move is the low post postup.
Agreed, and it is not even close. I do not want Harden and Dmo resting during a game at the same time. Everytime that happens our offense is terrible.
I think the Rockets should try get him in the ball in the paint area, where he can catch and make a quick move and shot. I don't believe the Rockets should let him post up on the block, spend 10 seconds getting him the ball, and hope he can beat his man. I still don't see why so many fans want us to play old JVG ball of just force feeding the post player success or failure. When there are ways to get DMo the ball on the move so he doesn't operate inside instead. We've seen how difficult it was with Yao and we've seen how hopeless it was with Dwight. We not try something new by taking advantage of DMo's ability to move really well without the ball? Stats say only 43% of his 2 pointers are not assisted. Among Rockets rotation players, only Dwight and Brewer are assisted more. Not a knock on him. But it just further supports my assertion above that we should try to put DMo in positions to get good shots, not force feed like all the fans think we should.
Ok in that case I agree. I would prefer that we use screens to get Dmo (or other players) in a good position to score. And not try to pass it to Dmo and for some reason not being able to and than Dmo has to receive the ball almost at the 3pt line. I do have to say I love the dump the ball inside and have movement away from the ball to either have a good post shot, or a cutter or an open 3pt shooter. Basically the Hakeem offense. I want more off ball movement in order to get shots close to the Basket. Our players are standing still way to much. Really that is surprising. I do not think most fans want Dmo force feed, but we do want him to get the ball in the low post since he can score quite easy. We need to get him in good position and get him a good shot.
He needs to get more Calls. He is always getting bodied and pushed on his moves. Thats called superstar treatment. The way the NBA works, once you get A good following you will start getting those calls. Or you get les to buy some more whistles, but eh, he is not mark cuban.
