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Donatas Motiejunas now a restricted free agent, no qualifying offer for Terrence Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by treyk3, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    According to you but he played just fine for a NBA players his second season and in his 3rd season until the nerve injury. Sorry but the facts back that statement up. Really not sure where you are getting your info from about his actual production in 2014 but it's incorrect. Let me know when you want the facts.

    It's ok, I understand that merely being "right" is important to you, not the "why" part.
     
  2. ThatBoyNick

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    Eh we traded him, neither Dmo or Jones stepped up for the starting spot last year due to injuries. Dmo's value is in all likeliness higher, but to say he's perceived as an important piece going forward when we traded him, and then signed Anderson for 20 mill isn't quite right.
     
  3. daywalker02

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    Could say some of the same things

    Injuries are not the reason why Dmo never learned to consistently rebound, protect the rim and block shots.

    Injuries were never the reason why Dmo was pushed around in the low post.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    The numbers show that his rim protection is above average....unless of course you are one of those that confuses "rim protection" for "shot blocking".

    As to being "pushed around in the post", if you are talking about 3 years ago, then yeah, it was because he hadn't put on the weight to hold his own. If you are talking about now, then you are sadly parroting out of date narratives that no longer apply.

    He really does need to work on his rebounding, but we did give a guy 20 mil who did a worse job rebounding last year.
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

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    Numbers!!?!?! Those convenient things?
     
  6. daywalker02

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    This is why he is still in the league...because otherwise he would be just an agile mini giant.

    Above average Defense which still cannot change the culture of an entire team.

    If Howard cannot help the Defense last year, well I do not need to tell you other players won't.
     
  7. daywalker02

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    He still get pushed out of place (maybe not pushed around anymore) by some of the elite bruisers.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Oddly, Dwight Howard's defense was part of the problem last season. He really fell off when it comes to his rim protection, he was allowing an opponent FG% of nearly 50% at the rim which is unheard of from him. In previous years Dwight Howard anchored the defense, last year he was part of the problem.

    Well yeah, but who doesn't especially if we're talking about at center.
     
  9. daywalker02

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    All I am sayin is there is a reason why is only a 9th or 10th man on a projected 6th-9th seed in the West this season.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    There's no doubt that his game has shortcomings but he'd be the primary backup at the 4 and he'd get some minutes at the 5 so I dunno about being the 9th or 10th man.
     
  11. DudeWah

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    The fact that the Rockets went out of their way to make a presentation package to keep D-Mo (as reported by Clutch) even after all that makes it fairly obvious he's perceived as an important piece going forward.
     
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    again hopefully in exchange for a better player
     
  13. ThatBoyNick

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    That meeting was the 1st right? Which was 2 days before signing Anderson. Not saying I know anything but things could have changed, or not. We definitely structured our signings to give us exactly 5.8 mill in cap space right now (Dmo's cap hold) but that may be just to keep us flexible to s&t him as well.

    Will be interesting to see what happens with Dmo, but even if we keep re-sign him, i'm not sure how long he would stay here, perhaps just until the trade deadline. Between us trading him, signing Anderson, and possibly looking to have flexibility for next years free agency I'm not sold Dmo will be here long term, but who knows.
     
  14. DudeWah

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    You bring up good points. None of us know what will happen going forward. Regardless of all of that, even if it's the case he's traded, the Rockets have gone out of their way to ensure something happens with him. That's an important piece per my perception.

    Unlike Jones, on the other hand, who was cast aside like used goods.

    That was my initial point. Htownballer38 has been arguing for about two years now that Jones was more important to the Rockets and that D-Mo has been useless to the team. It's quite obvious he has been and is still wrong. He should just admit it and move on but instead he's in yet another thread arguing the same tired points.
     
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    I think it was said in this thread or a similar one that TJones for Isaiah Thomas was possible.

    At some point Jones had some value and a player like Thomas just became an Allstar like that.

    A lot can happen.

    Jones did successfully surpass Royce White and Jeremy Lamb who were drafted before him.
     
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    Rockests are not the best place for young players, many will fail and just a few may become contributors in recent years.

    The Rockets also cannot get much for their young players, or they do not pull the trigger at the right moment.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    SO - What's up with DMo?
    The QO is like 5~6 Million?

    Are team negotiating with him or what
    I have heard nothing

    Rocket River
     
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    Yes, this is in another thread. Cyberx posted last year that the Suns were trying to convince us to take Isaiah Thomas and Miles Plumlee for either TJones or DMo (instead of Dragic at the time) and we did not do the deal. Still bothers me to this day. In fairness, I believe they were only going to add Plumlee if we gave DMo instead of TJones. I am sure Morey has had a few sleepless nights on this one.
     
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    If you go back to February 2015, you'll see I had an 8 page thread trying to convince the Rockets to take this deal and gave all the benefits of Thomas over Dragic. I knew he was an absolute steal for 6 million a year and had serious talent. Morey was eagle eyed on spending the max for Dragic (who didn't even want to come here) at that time.
     
  20. ThatBoyNick

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    Somebody give this man a cookie!
     

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