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Donatas Motiejunas now a restricted free agent, no qualifying offer for Terrence Jones

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by treyk3, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Htownballer38

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    So we're back to square one. What will be the lottery amount three years from today (exact dollar amount) and what will be the winning numbers. Shoots you should hit the lottery every time it comes out since you have this special crystal ball over there.

    Ain't no way in hell you predicted Jones would get injured causing his production to spiral downwards.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Apparently so because you refuse to admit that you were wrong and I was right simply because you failed to see it.

    Did I know he'd get injured? Of course not, but I saw that 100% of the justification for him being on a basketball court was derived from athleticism and that's never a good sign. I saw that he couldn't shoot. I saw that he had no skill in the post or facing the basket. I saw that he simply had no clue how to play defense properly. I saw that he had terrible fundamentals when it comes to rebounding. I saw that he wasn't a good passer or creator with the ball.

    When I saw these things, it led me to believe that unless he developed some kind of basketball skills that he'd be nothing special. That's all I said about him when he was a rookie. In the years after that I saw that he did nothing to develop any kind of basketball skills whatsoever so at that point I knew the second his athleticism dropped off he'd be total garbage. I thought he might be a decent bench guy in the years before his athleticism dropped off but injuries caused it to happen sooner than it naturally would have.

    I wasn't impressed with him making wide open dunks or the occasional flashy block, I knew all of those things were a mirage. It's okay if you didn't.
     
  3. Htownballer38

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    And yet he was still able to be efficient on both ends of the court in his sophomore season. Dude is still very young so he still have plenty of time to develop his game. His regression started after that nerve injury. And this past season he got our of good graces with Harden and the coaching staff.

    You were also wrong about Dmo as well. He regressed because of the back injury. But you're still so high on him and for what. He hasn't proving anything either.

    Both players were very disappointing this past season to me. I had a lot of high expectations for that PF tandem. Even Smith's return was a big time disappointment.
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    SMH "BUT I SWEAR THERE WAS AN OASIS HERE!!!! I SAW IT!!!!"

    That's pretty much the level we're at.
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

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    I'm arguing that your player evaluation is akin to a broken clock being right twice a day.

    Let me ask you this, do you think Morey agrees with you?
     
  6. dmoneybangbang

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    That's the thing about numbers.... they measure stuff. Not only that but multiple measurements of productivity on both sides of the ball agree that TJones wasn't garbage. There's no oasis... Those numbers are there for anyone to see, do you care to see them?

    I bet Morey could tell you where your thinking error is.
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    That TJones wasn't garbage his sophomore season.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    Clearly. I mean, that's why he wasn't even offered the QO. He'd have jumped at any opportunity to make 3 mil a year for his last NBA contract.

    Anyway, it's cool if you were fooled by the mirage as well by looking at raw numbers without looking at how they happened. There's a very loud and annoying minority here that still hold out that they really saw an oasis in the desert even after we walked past it and saw nothing but sand.
     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    LOL. Morey doesn't agree with your assessment of why he won't be getting a QO from the Rockets. Morey was relatively high on Jones as well but I'm sure you'll block out that fact too.

    Hey it's cool, some folks aren't even right twice a day like a broken clock so you have that.
     
  10. Corrosion

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    I think a really big part of why DMo hasn't signed an offer sheet is that teams know the Rockets are willing to pony up and match just about any contract teams are willing to ink him to ....
    In that case , all a team inking him to a deal does is tie up their cap space for 3 days waiting for the Rockets to match .... Kinda pointless to them.

    Basically teams know they will have to significantly overpay for the Rockets not to match and apparently they aren't willing to do that.

    Good for the Rockets as they can use what cap space they have remaining on someone else prior to completing his deal as they can ink him above the cap.
    After that they'll use a cap exception to ink Nene .... those deals will likely finalize the roster.
     
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    This.

    Bobby doesn't seem to understand why you are right matters, but merely cares about being right.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL irony. You ended up being wrong about Jones because you ignored "why" and you accuse me of that. You've got a lot to learn kiddo.
     
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    What is the time table for DMo? With teams running out of cap space, when is the deadline?
     
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    The start of preseason. In reality it'll all very likely be over soon after the Rockets are done making their FA moves. They still have to decide if they want to give Granny Shot a contract and it's easier to do that before DMo signs.

    I mean, there's a reason they went to visit him before FA despite the fact he was restricted. They wouldn't have done so unless they wanted something from him. IMO they asked him to hold off signing till they could get a few moves done and I think he agreed.
     
  16. DudeWah

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    Htownballer38 is still around pretending like he knows what he's talking about?

    He should just admit he was flat out wrong. His love interest Jones flamed out and D-Mo is still perceived as an important piece going forward just like many of us had been saying all along.

    It's probably best to just take the L and move on now.
     
  17. dmoneybangbang

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    You never predicted injuries, Bucko. Broken clock is right twice a day.
     
  18. daywalker02

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    Seriously? True Jones is out but Motiejunas is an important piece?

    Maybe on a bad team, well, we do not know how good D'antoni's team will be.
     
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    The article about Jones going to the Pels mentioned that he had at least one more offer. So it is safe to say that maybe Dmo has also.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Injuries aren't the reason that he never learned how to play any defense, injuries aren't the reason that he never learned how to shoot the 3, injuries aren't the reason that he never learned how to play in the post, injuries aren't the reason that he didn't learn how to play with his face to the basket, injuries aren't the reason that he didn't learn to be a competent passer, injuries aren't the reason Jones didn't learn not to bring the ball down before going back up under the basket, injuries aren't the reason why he never learned how to make layups, injuries aren't the reason he never learned to properly box people out.

    Injuries merely made his athleticism fade quicker than it would have naturally and he had no basketball skills whatsoever to fall back on. When you have a guy that only has athleticism, that's building a foundation on sand.
     

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