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Donaghy OpEd: NBA Turns a Blind Eye... Again

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by rockergordon, Mar 2, 2010.

  1. aelliott

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    Funny that you say that. I also started reading the book and stopped because it's spun so much in favor of Donaghy. All or part of it may well be true, but he definitely spins each story to make himself look better.
     
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  2. Jontro

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    I read that article from the OP and all I got out of it was:

    "BUY MY BOOK!"
    "The NBA Cheats"
    "WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? BUY MY BOOK!!!"
    "They did me wrong..."
    "BUY MY BOOK NOOOWWW!!!"

    Not buying the book. We already know the NBA is crooked under the helm of Sperm. I'll wait until the online book comes out where I can read it for free.

    I think the book is like a Hollywood movie that's "based on a true story" in which Donaghy takes a real event with 1 fact and adds so much spin and color into it just to make it more interesting. So I'll probably treat it that way and wait until I can "rent" the movie.
     
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    Kind of like the NBA... oh hey look, another alternate/retro jersey!!! ;)
     
  5. icewill36

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    hmm.... in that piece above he states that these things are still going on and you can tell if you by his book and apply to a game this season... yet in his last interview he said he hasnt even watched a game since all this came out.

    honestly feel hes trying to get some more sales in
     
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    I was too disgusted after watching 4:05 (how in #ell can you commit an offensive foul and your back is turned (in a stalled position) to a moving defender? And you get called for an offensive foul. Not to dismiss everything before, because all of those things from Game 2 was downright sickening


    This is the main reason, I'll never have respects for this current Lakers team, nor Phil Jackson (didn't even like him in Chicago), or that ref with a crystal ball for a head.
     
  7. tomjc

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    gj to tim! you're a hero! a rogue! gj telling everyone about this now, not when you were busy making bets off of the games you reffed.
     
  8. Wack-T-713

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    if you talk to him on his facebook he'll actually write back.
    i have his cell phone number.
     
  9. daeyeth

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    The most irritating thing about the administration of the NBA is that nobody can do anything about it. You say one word about the officials and boom, instant fine. And the player's union only cares about making money, they don't care about the games
     
  10. sirbaihu

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    Too bad dude lies for money, or else I might read what he wrote.
     
  11. jello77

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    Yes, and Tim Duncan goes suspiciously to money-making powerhouse San Antonio, and how league cash cows Portland and Seattle conveniently land the 1-2 picks in the Oden-Durant draft over smaller markets like Boston and Atlanta.

    But seriously...there's been a ton of small market teams that have won the lottery. Since the lottery started, here are the winners and their standings

    1985 New York Knicks 24–58 (3rd-worst)
    1986 Philadelphia 76ers[A] 54–28 (20th-worst)
    1987 San Antonio Spurs 28–54 (4th-worst)
    1988 Los Angeles Clippers 17–65 (Worst)
    1989 Sacramento Kings 27–55 (6th-worst)
    1990 New Jersey Nets 17–65 (Worst)
    1991 Charlotte Hornets 26–56 (5th-worst)
    1992 Orlando Magic 21–61 (2nd-worst)
    1993 Orlando Magic 41–41 (11th-worst)
    1994 Milwaukee Bucks 20–62 (2nd-worst)
    1995 Golden State Warriors 26–56 (5th-worst)
    1996 Philadelphia 76ers 18–64 (2nd-worst)
    1997 San Antonio Spurs 20–62 (3rd-worst)
    1998 Los Angeles Clippers 17–65 (3rd-worst)
    1999 Chicago Bulls 13–37 (3rd-worst)
    2000 New Jersey Nets 31–52 (7th-worst)
    2001 Washington Wizards 19–63 (3rd-worst)
    2002 Houston Rockets 28–54 (5th-worst)
    2003 Cleveland Cavaliers 17–65 (Worst)
    2004 Orlando Magic 21–61 (Worst)
    2005 Milwaukee Bucks 30–52 (6th-worst)
    2006 Toronto Raptors 27–55 (5th-worst)
    2007 Portland Trail Blazers 32–50 (6th-worst)
    2008 Chicago Bulls 33–49 (9th-worst)
    2009 Los Angeles Clippers 19–63 (2nd-worst)


    There is a lot of bad small market teams making jumps from the 5th-7th spot over bigger market bad teams in a lot of years. Yeah, the Bulls got the first pick in the Rose draft out of a small chance of winning, but there was a lot of s****y Bulls teams that didn't get the first pick. Specifically the ones you mention...the Patrick Ewing frozen envelope theory is an interesting conspiracy theory that's been rumored a long time, but Cleveland was the worst team in the league the year they got LeBron. And I fail to see why the NBA would have fixed it so that big college stars like Duncan, Oden and Durant end up on small market teams.

    The fishiest game in NBA history, and the only thing that even puts a seed of doubt in my mind, is Lakers-Kings game 6. I give Donaghy no credibility, however, and I don't believe the NBA fixes games, because if I did, I wouldn't follow the NBA anymore, and I love basketball too much to let that happen. As for lottery results, however, I fail to see any proof of conspiracy minus conspiracy theorists constantly crying about it. Honestly, Boston falliing all the way to pick #5 (the lowest they could have possibly fallen) in 2007, although it worked out for them in the end, pretty much should have ended any conspiracy talk in my book.

    I'll get off my soapbox now :grin:
     
  12. flamingdts

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    Just in case any of you are misinformed:

    Tim Donaghy did NOT manipulate the games. The FBI AND the NBA did not find any direct bias in Donaghy's officiating. Tim Donaghy was simply resourceful, and he knew the way each and every referee officiated.

    It's pretty sad if a resourceful person is able to win 70% of his bets on NBA game.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Not really there are trends associated with each crew, some call a lot of touch fouls that would benefit Lowry and Kmart, some let them play more on the low post.

    If you know the trends and know who is officiating, the over/under is the easiest thing to bet upon....because lots of fouls means lots more points.

    DD
     
  14. DCkid

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    Nope. Not really seeing it.
     
  15. Steve_Francis_rules

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    There's a big difference between them not being able to prove that Donaghy rigged games and them finding that he definitely did not rig games.
     
  16. flamingdts

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    There is indeed.

    But if in all the games they have reviewed they have not been able to find any conspicuous bias calls, then I'm pretty sure Tim Donaghy made as many correct calls as possible.
     
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    I read his book and I believe everything I read. Why would he lie? The NBA never did him wrong or anything..
     
  18. Steve_Francis_rules

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    I'm not saying he is lying, but if he is, I think the money from the book deal would be a good incentive. Nobody's going to pay him to write a book about NBA games not being affected by bias.
     
  19. Olajuwon34

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    Guys, I just feel he's on to something. Trust me, he does not deserve the benefit of the doubt with his gross actions. But watching NBA games, some things just don't make any sense with the way the ref's can call a game. We all know what a blocking foul is, the restricted area under the basket where the defender has to be set before taking on a charge. Yet, it's amazing how NBA ref's don't really stick to those guidelines, making it so erratic on which way the call is going to be.

    One minute the refs allow certain contact in the post, the next minute they are calling it a foul. I'll be honest, I've lost a lot of interest in basketball over the years mainly due to the way refs call games--which is dirty. The one thing I love about the NFL is they have instant replay, to at least attempt to show fans they are trying to be fair. I just don't get the same vibe from these NBA ref's.
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    That wasn't an op-ed piece, it was an advertisement. I can't blame him too much; I'm sure he's been blacklisted from any salary-paying basketball-related job, and his record will keep many more doors closed as well. If he wants to eat, he has to sell his book.

    I don't have a problem with his credibility. From the parts I've read, I see no reason to believe he's actually lying. He probably does characterize actions by the NBA as more sinister than they actually are. His smoking gun is mostly mild ref favoritism and some lack of professionalism, which isn't a huge surprise.
     

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