100% agree... i am sick of everyone blaming stern when their team loses. im sick of donaghy making obvious predictions and have ppl think he knows wtf hes talkin abt. this idiot claimed the league wouldnt let lebron lose and what happended? ppl still take this guy seriously? he switches up what he said the league wants to do every other week. he just goes with a winning team and says the refs favored them.. how can ppl not see this?
i dont know if any of you guys have heard the ex-mafia guy on Rome's show. I can't remember his name right now but basically he left the life and now tries to help kids or something. But he flat out said if you dont think organized crime is capable and actively fixing professional sporting events, your either ignorant or stupid. he went on to say that basketball was probably the easiest to do because one player CAN have such an impact on the game. i cant stand donaghy but i cant help but assume at least part of what he talks about is legit.
3 of the 4 series last round were sweeps... when are ppl going to get this conspiracy crap out of their head? phoenix and orlando win a couple games so its a setup? wtf man... they made it to the conference finals so?obviously theyre good teams. basically any series that isnt 5 games or less is a conspiracy. wtf?
This guy has never had any of his claims validated, and while he may be telling the truth there isn't really any reason to believe him. He's been proven to be dishonest, and I'm not sure why he gets so much attention with his claims.
I will say this. . . from something that was posted yesterday HE PREDICTED LAST NIGHTS GAME YESTERDAY ON DAN PATRICK SHOW!! http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/danpatrick/blog/111801/index.html Rocket River
Kind of like Jose Canseco, both guys have said things people thought were completely untrue and fabricated, but as time went along most of their testimonies have (and are) proven to be more than truthful.
Right - I guess that's why the NBA let its global marketing icon and #1 poster boy and TV ratings driver LeBron get uncermoniously dumped from the playoffs? Just like they did last year in favor of small-market Orlando? I'd love to be able to assign Kreskin-like powers, but in a physical series with a loud crowd, it's not exactly an off-prediction to claim that the home team is going ot get a few calls, especially when it comes a few cames after them b****ing about calls going against them.
I'm willing to believe that the NBA doesn't entirely control series (ie LeBron being ousted); they just plant little seeds that can change entire games like missed out-of-bounds calls, unnecessary technicals, calls on pivotal plays during late close games, etc.
Analogy replacement for old beer commercial, where one of the lines were," Don't let the smooth tast fool ya." The same goes for Stern in that," dont let the Jew face fool ya." The smooth taste of a light beer replacing the usuall beer of that brand without a supposed compromise of the same great taste. The commish David Stern behaviorally answers in an indirect explanation and supposed politically correct style that the media and public accepts without challenge or lack follow up question. His responses can be arbitrarily seen as answers to questions about the the qualitily of work about his NBA referees, but are not the real answers but rathter are substitues or light beer versions addressing the inconsistent quality of work we witness from these NBA referees that are in question. Quality of refereeing which should be consistant considering the global brand of the NBA,money,world class athletes, and quality of competition, we as fans have been fed as kosher pure competion.
Yes keen observer last 3 of the 4 series of the last round, which is exactly why the both the West & Eastern conference finals were not going to be sweeps no matter how dominating the teams were winning in the first two games of the series from a money, Vegas, network, revenue. and macro point of view. You could have bet the farm on the moneyline and chose whatever team you wanted even if supported the loser of the first two games of the series in either conference if you had the balls or the backing to double down until it hit. Obviously you havent taken a stats or probabilities math class. Don't get caught in the word conspricy think of the key word benificial to the parties involved in terms of money. Oh yeah you are wathching pure kosher competion sanctioned by his Sterness. Expand your micro understanding of what you see to the macro pure stats of what the record or patterns and you might benifit.. On the money line you don;t need to cover a spread you just put your money where your mouth is on the same day it statistics act out free from emotional attachment regardless of what the media or anyone else thinks. A win is a win. Discraced or not Donaghy exposing not a conspiracy but as an observation about the infrastucture and company stance as former employee to, who benifits in the end, this is why the people wanted to benifit for insights.
I wonder what Stern would do if Donaghy became one of those SPORTS HANDICAPPERS that I hear on radio advertising all the time. Rocket River
So naysayers are willing to admit that donaghy changed the game by his officiating but aren't willing to admit other refs are capable/probably doing this too? Funny. If I owned a company and have the oppurtunity to raise millions and millions of dollars in revenue without tarnishing my product too horribly, I'd do it; that's smart business.
anyone who calls donaghy a disgraced referee but aren't at least open to the possibilty that games are being extended for revenue purposes. Basically, anyone in this thread that says "no, there is no conspiracy"
It was just going against the Celtics though. Gortat's technical foul was also BS. He got called for touching the ball. Or the flagrant foul by Paul Peirce in the fourth was missed right in front of the ref's face, or Robinson's wrist slap on Dwight, etc. My point is, a good portion of the calls also went Celtic's way. I didn't feel like the refs were particularly favoring any team.
So bad calls prove a conspiracy because you and Donaghy say so? It's hard to have an intelligent conversation when you make blanket statements about everyone that disagrees with you. I think you are off the deep end. It may surprise you but I... 1. Despise David Stern 2. Think many NBA referees are pathetic 3. Am open to the possibility some current refs are corrupt to some extent But to take game 5 of Celts/Magic and jump off a cliff like you and some others have is nutty to me. To each his own.
The idea is to play wild and loose with the possibilities If it was easy to spot .. . it would not be very effective. The NBA is living in the grey area of benefit of the doubt. Rocket River
Poorly officiated game, but didn't look like a fix. It is irritating to see Howard knock Davis out with a concussion and then not get called for a foul. Meanwhile, it didn't even look like Howard apologized. Despite his perpetual smile, Howard is looking more and more like a classless player.
Did you watch the game? Nate Robinson slapped Dwight on the wrist, CAUSING him to elbow Davis. Just re-watch from 0:52 How can Dwight apologize when no one knows what the heck was going on and the Celtics were pushing the ball? <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9vvaHsczoLM&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9vvaHsczoLM&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
