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Dominion files $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against Fox News

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  1. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Contributing Member

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    In any case, things are looking pretty good for Dominion to win this lawsuit. Whether or not Fox has a first amendment right to knowingly deceive their viewers, the damage to Dominion is apparent and the argument that the reporting was done in good faith is probably not tenable with this stuff.
     
  2. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

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    dominion doesn’t want to settle.
     
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    I'd do a settlement bases on meeting demands such as

    Either fire Tucker Carlson or make him before each segment of his express remorse for spreading fake information

    And repeat that for every personality on Fox news who did spread the misinformation.
     
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    The fox entertainment network and its maga base have become immune to the truth, they simply will not believe anything other then there king and his court of jesters at fox are the real truth and everyone in the world is out to get them
     
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    Hence why I want those court of jesters to go on their entertainment programs and start each of their segments with how they lied directly to their audience knowingly and that they are now legally obligated to say this.
     
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    Fox will never do that though, but sure, I'd offer that same settlement.
     
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    google and youtube need to be held accountable for their part. can news corp sue them for their spreading their content?
     
  8. Kim

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    Yeah, I'm betting against a trial ever completing.
     
  9. Kim

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    Yes, they should be, but also no, they shouldn't be. This is like two classes worth of info regarding the development of 1st Amendment rights in our country to get to answering that question clearly.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    That plus $1.5B would probably get it done.
     
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    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    There is some precedent for this. About two years ago, Dominion dropped a lawsuit against Newsmax after the network agreed to issue a written apology and retract its election conspiracy theories on air. However, Dominion has announced that it does not intend to settle with Fox News in order to bring to light the truth and restore its reputation. Probably a tactic to increase the likelihood of a settlement in favor of Dominion.
     
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  12. rocketsjudoka

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    Ari Melber did a pretty good piece pointing out how Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity have frequently gone after other news services for what the call promoting lies even as they themselves knew that what they were promoting was false.
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    What I was going to say. If I were them, I'd get the cash money.
     
  14. Amiga

    Amiga 10 years ago...
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    "It is not red or blue, it is green" - Murdoch in his disposition from the Dominion lawsuit.

    Hooray, Fox News Viewers, you are all aliens.
     
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    Xerobull You son of a b!tch! I'm in!

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    The interpretation of Fox News and their attorneys regarding 1st amendment law is about having a really high bar for defamation because 1) they are the press and 2) Dominion is a public official / public figure. There is some credence to the argument that the press intentionally making something more of a public figure shouldn't count, but let's assume Dominion is a public figure The high bar was set by SCOTUS in NYT vs. Sullivan, and while many conservatives (because of Trump) wanted that bar lowered (because Trump wants to sue more easily, because Trump sues a lot), Fox is now saying that's the bar. I think Dominion's lawyers are aruging on two fronts: 1) Dominion is not a public official / figure, but just a 3rd party vendor for counties and states, so the high bar shouldn't apply to them suing Fox, and 2) even if the high bar is applied, Fox still surpassed that bar with their egregious behavior. Fox is arguing that, regardless of their egregious behavior (and they're probably not going to characterize it as that bad), this was legit news because the President (Trump) was saying it, so they're just covering stuff said by the present. Can Dominion convince a judge or jury that this clearly leaned more towards the intentionally lying with malice for financial gain vs. covering a news story about things they knew that were lies? This is a great case study for the boundaries of defamation.
     
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    People love paragraphs.
     
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    Part of the problem for Fox is that they weren’t just acting as journalists covering a story. Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham literally campaigned for Trump.
     
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    https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/13/smartmatic-defamation-lawsuit-against-fox-news

    New York court greenlights $2.7bn suit against news channel by election company Smartmatic over 2020 presidential election lies


    So far, attempts by Fox lawyers to have the Smartmatic case dismissed have fallen on stony ground. Last week the New York state supreme court in Manhattan gave the green light for the case to proceed against Fox News, the Fox Business host Maria Bartiromo, the former business anchor Lou Dobbs and Trump’s former lawyer Rudy Giuliani.
     
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    Lying has consequences.
     
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