DOMA: Obama invokes incest and people marrying children

How about the right not to be discriminated against? Oh, wait! That would deprive you of your right to discriminate! Darn.

 

Stop talking about his kids.

 

Marriage is a well established fundamental right in Constitutional law.

See: Loving v. Virginia

 

Or else? Jesus, Cheetah. Nobody on this whole board suffers from the same moderator delusion you do. Report me or put me on ignore. Your instructions are annoying.

 

okay, so now disapproving of someones lifestyle = hate.

 

I'd also like to point out that I'm not talking about his kids. I'm talking about his abusive treatment of them. That's about him, not his kids. If he talked about physically abusing them on this board, I would tell him I thought he should stop. That wouldn't constitute talking about his kids; I'd be talking about him then too.

There's at least a 1 in 10 chance one of his children will turn out to be gay. If that happens, he will have taught them it is wrong to be who they are. He will have taught them to hate themselves and he will have taught them that God disapproves of them being who they are. I'm sure I don't have to tell you how many young people have committed suicide or otherwise suffered horrible lives due to such abusive behavior on the part of the parents.

Sooner or later though you're going to have to learn that if you'd like me to behave differently on this board you're going to have to get a moderator to agree with you and then tell me. I don't observe your imaginary authority.

 

not hateful.

completely presumptious and totally false.

I have already taught them that God loves them and every individual regardless of the decisions they make. Fail.

Probably because it was done in the hateful way you keep insinuating I am conveying to my children. I am doing no such thing.

 

I'm confident after some time to reflect you will make the correct decision.

 

Obama doesn't thin gay marraige is right but he doesn't support DOMA, he wants it repealed by a leglative act by congress. He opposed DOMA when he ran for Congress in 06

 

there are age restrictions, are you against those?

 

You're r****ded. Love has nothing to do with it. Government CANNOT legislate love. Marriage has always ALWAYS been between a man and a woman. Even in cultures that were openly gay [ancient greece], there were no such things as 'gay marriages'; you had gay lovers but you never married them. Emotional argument is emotional.

LOL lrn2law. They sure can.

Apples and oranges.

/me sighs. No. You understand that it is legal to discriminate in certain cases? For example, fire departments can discriminate in hiring practices against people on height, physical fitness, etc. because those are fundamental to being able to do an adequate job as a firefighter. Or would you like to say 'no, we can't discriminate against the 1-legged midget who wants to be a firefighter yet cannot adequately perform the job?' Get out of your liberal happy-fun-land and live in the real world please.

 

Talking in memes doesn't make your argument better.

 

because internet (especially D&D) is serious. ****ing. business.

 

I've just skimmed this thread and the title is completely misleading, no surprise. Obama didn't invoke incest or pedophilia as he wasn't the author of this brief and I didn't see evidence that he signed off on this.

Second for Basso I don't see why you continue to bring this argument up to bash Obama supporters when clearly the politicians you supported didn't support Gay Marriage either. As you yourself note "no better than Bush" so you are doing nothing more than the pot calling the kettle black.

 

In the "real world," public opinion has turned against bigotry such as yours. Gay marriage will be legal in our lifetimes and your attitude will be regarded as ancient bigotry. This isn't a liberal vs. conservative thing anymore. It's young vs. old. Young people are overwhelmingly in favor of equal rights for gays (including marriage); only old people hold a majority against it. Guess what happens next? That's right: homophobia goes the way of racism. Oh, you'll still be able to practice it in private. But in "the real world," it will no longer be acceptable. Oh, happy day.

 

Actually "pursuit of happiness" isn't the Constitution. Sorry to be picky but that is an important distinction in regard to rights.

 

Obama says he will defend DOMA, my guess is because he feels its his job as president to defend the law.

 

i'm young and far from bigoted. I just see things as they are. You're the one that's living in a magical fairy land that will only end in America crumbling as the world's superpower (nothing to do with gay marriage, just the liberal agenda in general).

 

I don't think this helps your argument unless you believe the only purpose to marriage is procreation. If that were the case then marriage where one or both partners was sterile would be disallowed.

There are many reasons why people get married with procreation being only one of those reasons.

 

how irionic that you would use a heterosexual couple as an example ......, I'm not well versed in constitutional law, however, I'm not sure this warrants a constituional civil right to marriage, I read the text, and I see that the SCJ stated that they believe it's civil right, yet I still can't find any ACTUAL constitutional language that clearly defines it as such.

Please, I'm all about being educated, so if i am misundestanding this, by all means correct me.