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Dolphins-Martin-Incognito story

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by ferrari77, Nov 4, 2013.

  1. edwardc

    edwardc Member

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    What a total loser may go down as the dirtest players in the game.
     
  2. J.R.

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    Sounds to me like Incognito was the scape goat. Martin was an outsider on the team.
     
  4. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Honorary black ey?

    I think I get it now. Incognito was trying to offend Martin by using the "half" part, not the N-word, the N-word was complimentary.The "half" comment alludes to being white, and was meant in a derogatory way.

    Like, "damn bro, you're only half black, not 100% black like me (me=incognito)"

    So I guess Incognito is racist against whites. So all is good. It's okay to be racist against generic, non-homosexual, non-disabled, perfectly average whites.
     
  5. RunninRaven

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    Honky, please.
     
  6. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    From that article:
    Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolp...considered-black-in-dolphins-locker-room.html

    I guess the hood mentality is strong in their locker room.
     
  7. Icehouse

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    My guess it had more to do with him getting bullied for over a year than it did with his background. There are plenty of smart guys from "good homes" and schools in the league. After seeing him display traits that they would consider weak, ie not standing up for yourself, then they probably assumed it was because of his background.

    Is it surprising that guys in a sport where you are a tackling dummy would have that type of mentality?
     
  8. J.R.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;I believe in the men in our locker room ... I have the full faith and confidence that we will stick together as a team.&quot; - Joe Philbin</p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/398210039434858496">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;I believe in the guys in our locker room; I believe in our coaching staff.&quot; - Dolphins coach Joe Philbin</p>&mdash; NBC Sports (@NBCSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCSports/statuses/398210613111160832">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;I know why I got into coaching, and I believe in the things that I've done.&quot; - Joe Philbin <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Dolphins&amp;src=hash">#Dolphins</a></p>&mdash; FOXSportsLive (@FOXSportsLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsLive/statuses/398210847605915649">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;All I know about Richie is that he's been a great teammate to me. He was the best teammate I could ask for.&quot; - Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill</p>&mdash; FOXSportsLive (@FOXSportsLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsLive/statuses/398211219074453504">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;You can't help a situation you didn't know existed, that nobody in this locker room knew existed.&quot; - Ryan Tannehill <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Dolphins&amp;src=hash">#Dolphins</a></p>&mdash; FOXSportsLive (@FOXSportsLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsLive/statuses/398211742653616128">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;Both guys at this point have their rights and wrongs.&quot; - Tannehill, in response to whether he'd welcome Incognito &amp; Martin back. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Dolphins&amp;src=hash">#Dolphins</a></p>&mdash; FOXSportsLive (@FOXSportsLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsLive/statuses/398212600715943936">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;No one knew there was a situation to stop.&quot; - Dolphins QB Ryan Tannehill on the alleged actions of Richie Incognito toward Jonathan Martin</p>&mdash; NBC Sports (@NBCSports) <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCSports/statuses/398212664918548481">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>&quot;Right before they stood up (in the cafeteria), Richie said 'Jonathan is like my little brother.'&quot; - Ryan Tannehill <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Dolphins&amp;src=hash">#Dolphins</a></p>&mdash; FOXSportsLive (@FOXSportsLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsLive/statuses/398212959995822080">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Tannehill was incredibly open, said that he saw Jonathan Martin as Incognito's little brother. Said this was all a surprise to locker room.</p>&mdash; FOXSportsLive (@FOXSportsLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/FOXSportsLive/statuses/398213393535885312">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Vikings&amp;src=hash">#Vikings</a> DE Jared Allen: &quot;It's a sad deal. I don't know the details. I know Richie (Incognito). He has a good heart. He really does.&quot;</p>&mdash; Sean Jensen (@seankjensen) <a href="https://twitter.com/seankjensen/statuses/397780059383402496">November 5, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  9. Nook

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    Not surprised that players are not defending Martin....... the culture and mentality in professional sports (especially football) is different than the general society.
     
  10. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Yeah honestly this entire episode is turning me off the sport.
     
  11. el gnomo

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    **** the Dolphins. Defending this scumbag piece of **** (nice way to put it). Joke of a top-10 draft pick QB (I'd trade him for Case Keenum, I'm sure you guys wouldn't do that trade). Joke of a 'number-1 (LMFAO) wide receiver' with a HUGE contract. Joke of a head coach. Hired by the biggest joke of them all, the general manager. The owner can go eat a dick too. I refuse to further support this joke of an organization until sweeping changes are made. :mad:
     
  12. J.R.

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    Martin's not getting much support.

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hartline is outraged because he says Martin was passing the voicemail around earlier in the year and laughing about it.</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398215343367540736">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dolphins OL Tyson Clabo: Martin &quot;needs to stand up and be a man. I don't know why he's doing this.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398218854431588352">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ryan Tannehill: &quot;Richie Incognito was the best possible teammate I could have asked for.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398211192550080512">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I asked Joe Philbin if he personally has anything to fear from the NFL investigation. He refused to answer.</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398211468866617344">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Tannehill on outsiders' criticism of a lack of team leadership in this situation: &quot;Nobody knew there was a situation to be stopped.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398211882672488448">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Did Tannehill think Martin needed toughening up: &quot;No.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398212530793095168">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Tannehill said the controversy is &quot;a big surprise, a shock&quot; because Incognito and Martin had such a tight relationship.</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398214064322514945">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dolphins WR Brian Hart: &quot;The truth is going to come out.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398214433220358144">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hartline says the Dolphins players feel like &quot;you guys [in the media] are bullying us, actually.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398214758836740096">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hartline says Incognito feels betrayed by Martin for leaking the voicemail.</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398215169962434560">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hartline is outraged because he says Martin was passing the voicemail around earlier in the year and laughing about it.</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398215343367540736">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hartline insists that Incognito isn't a racist. Labels the question ridiculous and says he doesn't even understand it.</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398215860164509696">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Hartline says the Dolphins ordered the players not to comment Monday but that they all decided to let loose and &quot;defend ourselves&quot; today.</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398216648160980992">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dolphins OL Tyson Clabo: Martin &quot;needs to stand up and be a man. I don't know why he's doing this.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398218854431588352">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Dolphins PR won't let anyone film or take a picture of Incognito's locker. A junior staffer is literally standing guard.</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398220702009921536">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Tyson Clabo: &quot;Everybody's trying to make Richie out to be a racist psychopath, and nothing could be farther from the truth.&quot;</p>&mdash; Bart Hubbuch (@HubbuchNYP) <a href="https://twitter.com/HubbuchNYP/statuses/398221594184916992">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Ryan Tannnehill: &quot;if you ask Jonathan Martin about Richie two weeks ago he would've said he's his best friend.&quot;</p>&mdash; Armando Salguero (@ArmandoSalguero) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/statuses/398213438654386177">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>I ask randy Starks who is aware of voicemail whether Richie Incognito is a racist: &quot;No, not at all.&quot;</p>&mdash; Armando Salguero (@ArmandoSalguero) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/statuses/398220496262942720">November 6, 2013</a></blockquote>
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  13. tmacfor35

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    Gif of Royce White and Jonathan Martin please.

    I don't know why, but they seem good for each other.
     
  14. plutoblue11

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    I would say that I've been at this point for a minute to where I do not mind watching a football game for excitement, but watching and supporting these athletes on a personal level is and always has been near IMPOSSIBLE. I almost happy at this point to see Miami getting their butts kicked of the field for this madness.

    It's like people keep blaming the victim, regardless ... I'm going to be honest Martin would've been demonized by locker-room and others for doing the exact thing that they are saying that he didn't do... stand up for himself and beat up/injured Incognito who has shown himself to be reckless, violent, and unstable a-hole.
     
  15. Nook

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    Meh not sure he would have been demonized if he would have stood up for himself and fought Incognito. Although they picked him because he doesn't stand up for himself and is soft.

    There is no room in the NFL for the meek or soft and it isn't just a lot of players that feel that way, the coaches do as well.
     
  16. J.R.

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    Yeah, Mark Schlereth said earlier today "You know what's worse than being a racist in an NFL locker room? Being soft."
     
  17. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    It's a sport for Neanderthals. This just confirms it. Hopefully it will die in 20 years.
     
  18. Nook

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    It is also a sport that sits at a level of popularity and profitability that is virtually unheard of. The players are typically exploited, ground up and spat out and no one seems to care.
     
  19. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Things change.
     
  20. vinsensual

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    I guess Philbin has no choice but to have his players circle the wagons and take a Dolphins vs the world approach.

    Those quotes seem all over the place, and even worse they're against the Dolphins desire to keep quiet: The coach is pleading ignorance but supports whatever his team does. Accounts that the two were best friends, but the team knew what Incognito was doing, but they're still shocked to hear about it. Incognito's not racist he's a victim.
     

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