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D'Ohbama!: If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Oct 28, 2013.

  1. otis thorpe

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    keep rooting for failure. it helped in 2012
     
  2. giddyup

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    Have a friend who is a licensed health insurance agent. She reported that she tried to enroll 8 clients on HC.gov and went ZERO for 8... ran into dead-end snags on each one. This was in the middle of the night.... when she couldn't sleep... worrying about this stuff.
     
  3. across110thstreet

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    I have 8 friends who enrolled successfully.
     
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  4. giddyup

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    You've missed the point.

    8 in a row... in a compressed time period... in an off-time... not an overall record.

    But good try!
     
  5. across110thstreet

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    I can't share the success of my 8 friends who enrolled on healthcare.gov as anecdotal evidence?

    sounds like some people want it to fail.
     
  6. Refman

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    I don't necessarily want it to fail, but I think it will due to the ineptitude of our government (among other things). I have a family member who is in college. She works a crappy job for low wages about 20 to 25 hours a week. She gets minimal assistance from her parents. She submitted her information to the website in the first few days in October. They still can't tell her whether or not she qualifies for any of the subsidies and they told her they are not sure when they will be able to tell her and cannot tell her whether they need any additional information from her.

    It is difficult to describe how this thing is being administered without using the word "cluster."
     
  7. TheFreak

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    You've missed the point.

    1 in a row... in a compressed time period... in an off-time... not an overall record.

    But good try!
     
  8. ArtV

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    While I hope they do have coverage they may not really have it yet. Sounds like they are having issues getting the data to the companies. We experience this from time to time in that the website does not throw an error but does not capture all the necessary data needed for downstream processing. So the UI looks like all is well but when the data is sent down for batch processing, errors in the data capture are discovered. The bad thing with this problem is they are reporting is missing SSNs. That makes it very hard to even find the real person much less process them.

    I would suggest that they contact the insurance company in a few days to verify. You don't want to need insurance and find out you don't have it in an emergency.
     
  9. giddyup

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    No. I'm one who is in favor of a national healthcare plan of some sort. Having a daughter who was born UNINSURABLE, I don't want her going through life choosing a life's work based on the health insurance available.

    I think the (formerly) greatest country on Earth should be able to afford some kind of reasonably good and efficient healthcare system to its citizens. That being said, what is out there now is suspect.

    The contrast was that my 8 "failures" were encountered by a professional agent in a narrow window of time in a supposedly not busy time slot (3AM); she went 0 for 8. Yours just seemed to be anecdotal notches on your belt since October 1... which is around 1,632 hours not just 2.

    This morning another friend who is also a health insurance agent was telling me about her 62 year old client that she cannot help get enrolled because her premium and her subsidy keep turning out differently... and the difference is significant when you are trying to live on $1200/month social security. Apparently the calculating engine is screwed up as well.
     
  10. Refman

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    It is, however, a very real situation. If she is having this problem, I doubt she is the only one. Meanwhile, the clock is ticking for her to buy coverage in order to avoid a fine.
     
  11. Refman

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    Don't worry...apparently the exchange in California will transmit your personal contact info to insurance agents to help you without your knowledge or consent.
     
  12. Dubious

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    They linked my 2012 tax return and stated my eligibility is the first 15 minutes.
     
  13. across110thstreet

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    yes, my enrollee friends are enrolled.
    yes, their coverage begins in January.
    no, they aren't worried if they REALLY enrolled or not.
     
  14. Commodore

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    here comes the Doc Shock

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/994951f8-5e71-11e3-8621-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2mvzWzKPI

    Families kicked onto the exchanges that were sending their kids to Cedars-Sinai and MD Anderson for cancer treatment will no longer be able to.

    This is the sort of thing that ends in pitchforks and torches.
     
  15. otis thorpe

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    perhaps, but these are families with plans that covered MD Anderson before that now will not
     
  17. otis thorpe

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    All that article says is they will not accept some of the plans offered on the exchange. They are the leading cancer research center they can't take everyone.
     
  18. otis thorpe

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    Kings go to MD anderson
     
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    I went to MD Anderson. They wanted a check for $2000 before I could even get in to see anyone for a first visit evaluation. (I paid and they were awesome).
     
  20. otis thorpe

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    King White Lightning. :)
     

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