D'Oh-bama!: If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that.

It's called the coordination problem basso.

Source: Wikipedia

 

Ground control to Major Basso,
Ground control to Major Basso,
Take your protein pills and put your helmet on
(Ten) Ground control (Nine) to Major Basso (Eight)
(Seven, six) Commencing countdown (Five), engines on (Four)
(Three, two) Check ignition (One) and may gods (Blastoff) love be with you...

This is ground control to Major Basso, you've really made the grade
And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear
Now it's time to leave the capsule if you dare...

 

So how does the ipad becomes a success while the touchpad flopped.

The iPhone succeed while the palm pre failed.

 

I really don't know at all where you're going with this, but I recommend taking undergraduate-level Marketing courses if you're so very intrested in the topic.

 

This post is pretty funny because Stanford is a private university.

 

Uhhh what are you talking about? Obama never said that, lol.

 

Hightop's winning argument: $16.5 billion endowed STANFORD is stealing the technologies. Ban public schooling.

 

I assume YALE steals the laws, and MIT steals the maths, while WHARTON steals the businesses.

Imagine where America would be if these institutions didn't exist. BAN PUBLIC SCHOOLING AND KIWI ICE CREAM.

 

I don't think it's a matter of being grateful to government for success but recognizing that government does play a role and that no business is ever really built completely from nothing.

While yes the Wall St. crowd and mega corps have contributed far more to the income disparity than businesses the size of mine I don't see reducing the level of government will lead to addressing that. If anything it will probably increase disparity as free of regulation larger businesses will just be able to use their market share to out compete smaller businesses. I certainly don't feel more government is always the answer but less government isn't always the answer either.

In general I agree and I don't think going back to the Clinton tax rates for everyone would necessarily cripple our economy. As I've said before tax cuts have little bearing on my business especially during the recession. When our business is down we are already paying little in taxes. When our business is up we don't mind paying taxes and the difference in the amount we might save from a tax cut (or for the sake of argument what we currently pay vs what we would under Clinton tax rates) probably wouldn't be enough to convince us to hire more people.

 

He didn't say anything like this, you need to reinterpret Obama's statement.

 

I refer you to the OP:

the context:

There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me -- because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t -- look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business -- you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires. (End Statement)

If starting a business were a community project, I don't recall anybody else working with me late into the night getting business going. You obviously ascribe to the theory that a butterfly flapping its wings in Africa starts the hurricane in North America. Tell me when you create a successful business that you still believe Obama.
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Apparently, Tea Partiers can't read.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

Read your statement. Then read the bold statement. If you can't see where you went, repeat the process until you do.

 

Sure, why not? There's all sorts of problems with your statement:

1. What's best for me isn't always what's best for the country or society. It seems pretty selfish to me if the only thing you care about is what benefits you personally.

2. He's not really asking me to pay more. Thus far, he's lowered most people's taxes.

3. Voluntarily paying more in taxes does nothing to help my business. However, if taxes get raised by society and go to doing something that helps the economy and thus helps the business, it may actually be a net positive for me, so it wouldn't even be a negative for me economically. So of course there'd be a pretty big difference between paying more myself with no policy changes vs. paying more in exchange for something.

This stuff isn't complex at all.

 

If Wall ST & Mega Corps paid their fair share like everyone else including the small business owner, we wouldn't have to eliminate the size of govt. In fact, if capital gains ect were taxed at normal income levels, I'm sure we could give teachers 70k salaries instead of 40k salaries. What could that do to attract and retain talent in schools? Probably a much wiser approach than the trickle down GOP rhetoric tax approach by letting the fat cats keep theirs and hope they bless the other 99% with their wealth.

 

Why would you be surprised to hear Obama? Are you deaf and this was a miracle? Or do you expect a President to be silent? I am confused.

Interesting. There were lots of companies that I was not responsible for establishing over the last 28 years too.

Nicely done, government! Are you a supporter of government creating businesses now? Your cousin must be thrilled to have gotten a free business.

 

Sparing you the boring but mandatory marketing class I never attended, this is completely untrue.

Just look up comparables on AAPL stock for example. They might have done some fresh new things but there is no way they "created an entirely new market".

 

Yeah, sure. An entire new market for "media-centric smart"---mobile phones. hmm.

Anyways, this discussion is verging on the irrelevant. If there's a point you want to make, make it.

 

http://www.darpa.mil/

pretty much creates everything