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DOGE The Eschaton

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Nov 13, 2024.

  1. dobro1229

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    MAGA weirdos love to try to divert every topic to be “Is Trump Hitler?” Because even their mush brains can figure out that it’s impossible for 2 people to be exactly the same so as long as they are talking about liberals talking about fascism and analogies to the 1930’s, they know they can pull the “liberals with TDs!!!” card.

    Meanwhile Trump could literally have Mein Kampf on his nightstand and he still wouldn’t be exactly Hitler.

    Trump isn’t Hitler and never will be…. But most of Trump supporters are just as bad as Hitlers Nazi supporters for sure. That’s one thing that for certain. Even if Trump euthanized all 2 million Palestinians I have no doubt you guys would worship him just as much as Hitlers supporters followed him into the darkness.

    But I am open to you guys proving me wrong. I challenge all of you MAGA cultists now to tell me straight up you would break with Trump if he committed genocide against the Palestinians or if he invaded sovereign countries to suit his ego for manifest destiny.

    Do it… prove me wrong. Pledge to break with Trump.
     
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    That not exclusive to trump. Biden loyalists didn't outwardly break with him when he pardoned Hunter (lying while under oath), being senile and demented for 4 years, encouraging illegals to hoard resources from poor Americans etc. As for me , a swing voter who voted for Obama and Trump, if all 2 million Palestinians were euthanized I would be outraged. But less than 30,000 killed after Hamas attack means less than 1% have died in the War and that isn't a genocidal level. Needs to be closer to a million to use term.
     
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  6. strosb4bros

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    Falsely using the terms genocide, hitler, nazi have led to dems being completely ignored even when they have legitimate grievances. they must stop abusing these terms.
     
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    The only actual genocides occuring are
    A. Against the Uyghurs
    B. African tribes vs other African tribes

    Both are ignored by dems because no white people to guilt
     
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    I need @B-Bob to explain this one to me

     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/us/politics/elon-musk-doge-lawsuit-agencies.html?smid=url-share

    A judge declined to block the Musk team’s downsizing efforts and access to agencies’ data.

    Feb. 18, 2025, 4:48 p.m. ET
    Zach Montague
    Reporting from Washington

    A federal judge in Washington gave President Trump a major victory on Tuesday when she declined to bar Elon Musk and his associates from having access to data at seven federal agencies or involvement in mass firings.

    In an order on Tuesday, Judge Tanya S. Chutkan in Federal District Court in Washington, wrote that a coalition of 14 state attorneys general from Democratic states that brought the lawsuit against Mr. Musk had failed to show specific examples of how Mr. Musk’s sweeping data collection efforts in recent days could cause those states imminent or irreparable harm.

    “The court is aware that DOGE’s unpredictable actions have resulted in considerable uncertainty and confusion for plaintiffs and many of their agencies and residents,” Judge Chutkan wrote, referring to the Department of Government efficiency tasked with carrying out Mr. Musk’s vision. “But the ‘possibility’ that defendants may take actions that irreparably harm plaintiffs ‘is not enough.’”

    The ruling by Judge Chutkan reflected the atmosphere of confusion surrounding the purpose and goals of Mr. Musk’s team, which judges in a number of court cases have repeatedly and unsuccessfully asked government lawyers to clarify.

    It also reflected what Judge Chutkan described as the considerable uncertainty about what future cuts and layoffs could result from Mr. Musk’s effort to shrink the federal work force, which has resulted in the termination of hundreds of federal contracts and thousands of workers in recent weeks.

    “The court can’t act based on media reports,” she said. “We can’t do that.”

    The coalition of 14 states had argued in the case that Mr. Musk is essentially informing his process on the fly, steering decisions about how to reshape federal agencies based on the data his team was actively extracting.

    “The way in which DOGE and Mr. Musk have identified how to make cuts is through use and analysis of the agency data,” Anjana Samant, a deputy counsel at the New Mexico Department of Justice, said on Monday. “I don’t see how defendants can dispute that.”

    The states had sought a temporary restraining order to prevent Elon Musk or anyone at the “Department of Government Efficiency” from combing through data at seven agencies: the Office of Personnel Management and the departments of Education, Labor, Health and Human Services, Energy, Transportation, and Commerce. It also sought to prevent Mr. Musk’s operatives from “terminating, furloughing, or otherwise placing on involuntary leave” any employees at that work at those agencies.

    Mr. Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency, which is not a department but a small team housed within the executive office of the president, regularly spotlights obscure grants and contracts on its website as examples of runaway spending that President Trump gave a greenlight to slash. But in the process, it has also pushed billions of dollars in cuts without explanation, and spurred personnel changes, including the firing or suspension of thousands of workers.​
     
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  13. El_Conquistador

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    $7 BILLION of corruption -- unreal. Democrats were using taxpayer dollars to pay off their people, fund their partisan initiatives, and to create the illusion of support for their absurd policies (large scale social deception). And they have the nerve to say that Trump is corrupt. Trump is cleaning up their waste, fraud, and abuse to preserve taxpayer dollars. No wonder the Dems are fighting so hard to prevent him from accessing the info. They stand to lose their gravy train.
     
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    I pledge that. I don't anticipate any genocide.

    But back to reality, Doge needs to accelerate. 24 months will be over in a snap. Cut the fat.
     
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    We live in an extraordinary time when the richest man on earth is dedicating his talents on a fulltime basis to helping the government become more efficient. It's putting the best and brightest in charge. Simply amazing.
     
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    Thanks Elon
    @Salvy
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    Never did I think people would get so intertwined with a political party that when their political party is being found out for millions upon millions of fraud that they would get upset at the people discovering them. Democrats are miserable because their preferred politicians and agencies don't get to steal their money and buy mansions with it.....
     
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    If we take back the half trillion dollars spent on making kids in Uganda trans we can solve the mental health crisis amongst divorce dads in America with that money,
     
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