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DOGE’s Only Public Ledger Is Riddled With Mistakes

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Feb 23, 2025.

  1. GOATuve

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    You guys follow each other around. I'm not entertaining it. I know that you side with the Democrats and that's fine. If you can't see what an idiot AOC is I don't know what to tell you
     
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    I pray for you man. Trump is destroying the economy which will hurt Latinos the most. He's destroying the construction industry. He's eliminating all the institutions that are here to protect consumers. Hopefully you see the light one day. You're a smart guy whos being blinded by hate
     
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    Man this isnt cool, I dont follow anyone around. Im literally here trying to talk to you and you are running away. Why bother talking to someone if they wont explain themselves, I can explain myself.
     
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  4. deb4rockets

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    To be fair, Trump is as toxic as they come in almost every single trait of a leader and American.

    A lot of the party are just as toxic, stupid and racist as him, and won't hesitate to repeat his propaganda and lies as truth. The rest are just plain cowards and butt kissing power hungry loyalists. Trump will stab every single one of them in the back if they refuse to kiss the feet he walks on, and bend to his demands.

    Too many of his appointees are self-serving billionaires who bribed their way into his greedy arms to get richer. Those numerous billionaires, right wing radicals, QAnon kooks, and cowards make up the brown shirts, which is MAGA, and have pretty much taken control of what used to be the Republican party. It's unrecognizable now, and as bad as it can be in my eyes.
     
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  5. GOATuve

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    I can't stand Trump
    Wish we could be rid of him. Likewise by the way of intelligence
     
  6. Amiga

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    Mistakes have a real impact on real people.

    Cutting staff (in half) in a department that is already understaffed exacerbates the mistakes made.

    Here’s a ‘dead’ person on Social Security in Seattle, with plenty to say | The Seattle Times

    You wake up one day and discover you’re dead,” Johnson told me. “It’s been truly surreal.”

    That’s the biggest difference — my deceased guy turns out to be very much alive. Musk is contending that hordes of dead people are listed as alive in the Social Security databases, and are fraudulently still drawing benefits (which the Social Security director disputes).

    “We know this is a difficult time, and we’re here to help,” the bank wrote. “We received a request from Social Security Administration to return benefits paid to LEONARD A. JOHNSON’s account after their passing.”

    “There’s nothing you need to do — we’ve deducted the funds from LEONARD A. JOHNSON’s account.”

    Uh oh. It itemized how $5,201 had been stricken from their bank account, on the grounds that Ned wasn’t justified to get those benefits — because he was dead. That was for payments he’d received in December and January.

    Ned found that his February Social Security check hadn’t been paid, and he’s yet to receive his March check, either. His Medicare insurance had been canceled. He also learned that when you die, your credit score gets marked as “deceased, do not issue credit,” which makes it tough to get a loan.

    What followed was a nearly three-week battle to resurrect himself. He called Social Security two or three times a day for two weeks, with each call put on hold and then eventually disconnected. Finally someone answered and gave him an appointment for March 13. Then he got a call delaying that to March 24.

    In a huff, he went to the office on the ninth floor of the Henry Jackson Federal Building downtown. It’s one of the buildings proposed to be closed under what the AP called “a frenetic and error-riddled push by Elon Musk’s budget-cutting advisers.”

    It was like a Depression-era scene, he said, with a queue 50-deep jockeying for the attentions of two tellers. The employees were kind but beleaguered.

    “They are so understaffed down there,” he said. “They think the office is about to be closed down, and they don’t know where they’re going to go. It feels like the agency’s being gutted.”

    After waiting for four hours, Johnson admits he jumped the line: “I saw an opening and I kind of rushed up and told them I was listed as dead. That seemed to get their attention.”


    “When I was in that line, I was thinking that if I was living solely off Social Security, I could be close to dumpster diving about now,” he said.

    What’s concerning is that no one has been able to tell him how he ended up in the agency’s “death master file.” Had he been conflated with some other poor Leonard Johnson? Was he flagged as dead by a credit agency or the electronic funds transfer system, which then ricocheted back to Social Security? Was it simple input error? Nobody knows. Or nobody’s saying.

    Johnson said his takeaway is that Social Security needs help — with its databases, but especially with enough staffing to answer the phones. The announced plan from the new administration is to cut 7,000 employees. This past week, the news outlet ProPublica reported on a recording of a meeting in which the director, a Trump appointee, suggested ominously that DOGE’s suggested changes could cause the agency to collapse.

    The director also debunked the idea that dead people are being used to fraudulently claim benefits in any widespread manner — as both Musk and Trump keep claiming.

    For his part, Johnson says he felt the agency was super-aggressive in the opposite direction. Money was unilaterally deducted from his bank account before he even had a chance to react to the news of his untimely death. People living check to check could be decimated, he said.

    “I’m OK with mistakes being made,” he said. “But I’m not sure how much they’re focused on fixing these kinds of mistakes going forward, as they are in using the mistakes to tear the place down.”
     
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  7. Rocket River

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    They stay Lying

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  8. Rocket River

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    So now DOGE has an Army?


    Armed assualts on non government/executive agencies????

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  9. adoo

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    DOGE has not taking 'chainsaw' to defense spending
    Pentagon has been the 'fattest target to hunt'

    DOGE's self-proclaimed "$35 billion" in savings so far but has left the "fattest target to hunt" "unmolested across the Potomac at the Pentagon, a place
    former President Eisenhower and WW2 hero, had warned us was out of control in in the mid 1950s,", calling it the defense industrial complex


    • obsolete weapons programs such as the F-35 fighter jet in the age of drone
    • golf courses
      • "The Air Force has 51 golf courses. The Marines have ten. Guam has two. Nothing to cut? No vroom, vroom for that?"
    • fraud / abuse
      • how about Boeing over-charging the US Govt by over 8,000% on cleaning supplies
     
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  10. deb4rockets

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    Just wait until he starts spending to build his iron dome. My guess is he wants to start it over his Mar a Lago resort. :p
     
  11. Rocket River

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    How much fraud has been found?
    What's being done about it?
    Who going to jail for it?

    Rocket River
     
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