DOGE’s Only Public Ledger Is Riddled With Mistakes

I think there is a good likelihood that this is what Doge is about. It hasn’t happened yet, but I will call it that when it does.

That said, if the actual dollars cut by Doge are pennies on what they’re claiming, then the scope of transfer by this vehicle is less disastrous and my eyeballs are elsewhere.

Don’t get me wrong, these people are criminals and crooks. But I also spend less and less time here and in monitoring the nonsense because it pisses me off and I have better things to do with my time. For now, Im the camp of this is what America voted for and I sincerely hope Trumpers feel every bit of what is coming down. Not because I’m an *******, but because that may be the only way this country is redeemed.

But I think this country has peaked and isn’t coming back. Need no further proof than the stupidity posted on Cf every day by Trumpers.

 

They prefer to believe the pathological liar they voted for.

 

Why would cutting waste, fraud and bloat own the libs? What are you suggesting?

The ra ra, hoo rah stuff... welll... that's politics. I think they're clever enough to know if they go around debating each item in public things will never get done because they never have gotten done despite everyone knowing there is a massive problem. The lack of historical action on this pressing issue is the precedent. These guys have a ton of flaws but they're ahead of the curve when it comes to the public. Whereas dems implicitly pick people who are well behind under the guise of niceness, only to be controlled by unelected bureaucrats who benefit from this laundering scheme.

 

Cut all government contracts to private corporations and replace all those contracts with hiring federal employees to do what those private corporations were asked to do.

That would have epic savings. When you contract out work to the private sector a team of shareholders and executives are trying to accumulate wealth so they are smoking.billoons of dollars when they receive these contracts.

Like we can replace corporate executives with 10 million dollar salaries and shares worth millions of dollars with federal employees who are managers getting a 6 figure salary.

If you want to save the most tax payer money you stop all transfers of of tax payer money to private equity. All of it.

 

Honestly if I got an email from Elon
I would treat it like Spam or phishing

Esp if it is not from an @COMPANYNAMEADDRESS.com

Rocket River

 

fed employees don't have that skillset. If they did they would demand those private corp salaries.

These savings , whatever they end up being, aren't being funneled to blackrock. They go to paying off the deficit and some might go back to Americans earning under $100k. The majority of business aren't publicly traded or private equity, they are small business who try to turn a profit after all expenses and wages are paid. I don't see why you can't view govt as that with taxpayers as the shareholders. Let's first see what is specifically contracted out based on need. We go back to twitter (there are tons of others, but this is easy) , where they didn't go crazy with subcontractors. They just made it clear it's a place for software engineers who can build code, not content moderators who deal in fugazi.

 

You can’t be this stupid. The Doge and trump messaging is libs are corrupt, libs created massive government, therefor cutting government is cutting/owning the libs. It is literally the tone and concept of all the messaging. The chainsaw nonsense is pandering to ignoramus Trumpers. You can brush it off as roo rah stuff, just politics. It is idiotic.

You can blindly trust Trump and Musk if you want - under the guise of calling them clever enough to know not to debate each item in public. You’re the sucker.

I didn’t elect them, but even if I did, I would want accountability and transparency. Trump and trumpers love to ooh and ah about how Trump is a business man and will run the government like one. Well, voters are the shareholders of the government and we are owed transparency, just like shareholders are entitled to corporate disclosures under SEC and FINRA rules.

So basically this tells me you think everyone should just trust and believe Trump and musk like you do. In this case, you’re the idiot for giving up your right to transparency. You would rather gloss over the problems with what Trump and Musk are doing, and instead talk about Dems pick nice people or whatever. Dems aren’t in power. Trump and musk are. Your standards for their conduct are embarrassingly low.

But, coming full circle, and back to my original point, I don’t know that you actually care about whether Doge cut 8MM vs 8B, or whether they’re doing it right. You care about the chainsaws and owning the libs. You might say you’re about the substance, but your unwillingness to have any standards for Trump and Musk and your prior rants suggest otherwise.

 

This is someone burning down the Forest
and then wanting credit for the forest that grows in its place


Rocket River

 

Executives are what we call a "class solidarity" group of humans who mostly don't have technical skillsets but reward each other through ownership of capital.

The ownership of capital is what created these millions of dollar salaries executives with millions of dollars of added stock options. Not technical skills. Like ask yourself what technical skills Elon Musk has and he's the world's wealthiest man.

 

No its not substance, its intellectual dishonestly from someone who pretends to be sincere. And runs away when someone pushes back.

This dude actually liked his own post too.

 

it didn’t take long for him to depart from substance and go back to nonsense.

 

That's like basic info security 101. My company sends us fake email from fake outside companies and we get in trouble if we opem them. Apparently they have an outside company that does nothing but send fake emails to companies. Like that's all they do - fake email testing to prevent phishing.

 

Almost everything DOGE has claimed as fraud or waste was either mischaracterized, grossly exaggerated, or just false. The problem is that trumpers believe every single thing they say no matter how fraudulent or obviously exaggerated the claims may be.
Here Are The Biggest DOGE Hoaxes And Inaccuracies

https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/02/19/here-are-the-biggest-doge-hoaxes-and-inaccuracies-as-8-million-canceled-ice-contract-listed-at-8-billion/






Also, to the OPs point, we can note that every (actual) independent auditor that looks at the numbers say that the real $$ amount of savings so far has been somewhere between $2 Billion and $8 Billion total. Nowhere near the numbers DOGE is claiming.

DOGE released data about federal contract savings. It doesn't add up

NPR's analysis found that, of its verifiable work completed so far, DOGE has cut just $2 billion in spending — less than three hundredths of a percent of last fiscal year's federal spending.

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/19/nx-s...gXCXI90Kw3p_E-AqQw_aem_UAvY4dkpwPJcmnBTPvdm9g






Elon Musk's DOGE Savings Of $55 Billion May Be Overstated — WSJ Analysis Reveals The Likely Actual Figure

The WSJ analysis of government contract data provided by Deltek, a government contracting expert and data provider, indicates that the actual savings may be much lower, potentially around $2.6 billion over the next year

https://www.benzinga.com/markets/25...wsj-analysis-reveals-the-likely-actual-figure

 

Glad we tanked the entire national economy & destroyed a centuries worth of work & are burning down the entire future because...
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DOGE found a few unused MS enterprise seats.

Omfg these ****ing dumbasses don't even know how software is sold!

 

@strosb4bros did you abandon this thread because the overwhelming evidence is that musk is a lying sack of **** and Doge is all about lying to Trumpers and fabricating effectiveness. Or are you somewhere celebrating the tens of dollars that Musk is taking off the deficit.

 

Short term pain for long term gain

Musk is serving a purpose and Im glad he is the sacrificial lamb

I am a present father to my kids just like my father was a present dad so I don't look to these billionaires to be morally perfect or inspirational figures

You need a chainsaw to cut through bureacracy this thick and muddled, like the first foray into the amazon

a scalpel would not make any headway and give chances for the roots to grow back

For the glory of AMERICA!