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Dog Wiggles Paw Free to Shoot Florida Man

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by oomp, Sep 9, 2004.

  1. Lil Pun

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    Please spay and neutar your animals and if you cannot afford that or more animals you'll get from no prevention taken, DON'T GET ONE!
     
  2. outlaw

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    I set up an appointment for my dog to get the Neutrosol injection (chemical to prevent sperm from being produced. no surgical operation required). SNAP is doing it for free Thursdays this month.
     
  3. Faos

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    You don't know what you're missing.
     
  4. fadeaway

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    Ummm.. have you ever actually seen an animal get put down at a vet/shelter? It isn't the gentle, painless experience you envision. The animal gets visibly stressed out from the needle and definitely goes through pain before dying. Our cat went absolutely nuts when we got him put down (because of cancer). He screamed and howled, and my mom got a nasty bite.

    In my opinion, shooting a puppy through the head is much more humane than putting it to sleep with a needle. It's quick, almost totally painless and stress free because the animal doesn't expect it. It would probably be the preferred method of execution at shelters if not for the numerous safety issues involved.
     
  5. m_cable

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    Damnit man. I ended up clicking on the link now. Why o why am I so weak.
     
  6. Rashmon

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    That is just such poetic justice.
     
  7. DaDakota

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    I know a few guys who take their dogs out and shoot them in the woods when they are too old or sick.

    I just don't know how someone could do that.

    DD
     
  8. m_cable

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    Brilliant. Why didn't I realize this before. This dude is obviously using the old, "Start shooting puppies in order for one of them to wiggle their paw free to shoot you and thereby gain media attention and get adopted" strategy. See he was shooting them in order to SAVE the puppies.

    This guy deserves his own Bud Light commercial. I salute you.
     
  9. ROCKSS

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    Yes, I have. I had to put my dog down two years ago at my vet and the experience was nothing like yours. It was actually very quiet and I held him until he passed and he didnt "show" any signs of fear or pain other then if he was falling asleeep. Sorry about your Cat, I hate to hear of anyone losing a pet.
     
  10. SamCassell

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    You can't say that the puppies would have just died in the shelter unless you knew the shelter/community. Some are kill-free. Either way, injection is a more humane way to die than shooting. Otherwise, firing squads would still be the preferred method of execution in states that regularly do them.
     
  11. Fatty FatBastard

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    Ummmm, no. Do your research before you spew tripe.

    Shooting executions were stopped because of public outcry. People are idiots. Lethal injections are no less humane than other types of death.






    (damnit! I wasn't supposed to respond in this thread, anymore!)
     
  12. SamCassell

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    Thank god. I was worried for a second that I was going to be flamed by someone who was credible. Luckily, I got a combination of the following instead

    (1) hypocracy, by flaming me for not "researching" while failing to state any objective facts of your own

    (2) contradiction, by stating that "Lethal injections are no less humane than other types of death."

    (3) pithy aphorisms like "People are idiots" with no substance

    (4) unprovoked vitriol about "spewing tripe". Name calling is fine for your third grade class, but it's pretty lame here.

    This is an interesting site with information about death penalty methods. Death Penalty Info Center
     
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    A slow suffocation/strangulation made worse by the fact that your mind knows what is going on but can not do anything about it because one of the ingredients in the cocktail paralyzes the body; sure it's more humane..... to those viewing and doing the executing. And I am for the death penalty but let's be clear on who is getting off easy here, it ain't the guy being killed at all. To me, the firing squad would be right at the top of the list for quick and painless, right up there with a hanging persuming it is down right, a quick short drop and then nothing.
     
  14. CBrownFanClub

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    Nice take on the aliens attacking -- do you know something I dont? We should definitely shape our humanity laws and social mores around the potential for an alien invasion.

    The difference is that it is not this random guys area of specialty, and if we need licensed specialists to sell insurance, cut hair and sell real estate, I think its okay to have restrictions on people just blasting adoptable animals because in their off-the-top-of-my-head opinion, its a good idea. I am not comfortable giving Joe Q. Public carte blanche on deciding which adoptable animals need to die and which need to live. That's why we have shelters with professionals.

    The shelters in my city are no-kill. Kick ass.
     
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    what city is that?

    btw, i worked at houston spca for about 6 months- the most depressing environment ive ever experienced, some incredibly cold people and a general paranoia about negative media attention and peta like groups pervaded the place. you could almost see that animals sense this when they get there- VERY depressing.

    i wish more people took owning a pet seriously.
     
  16. Rockets Red Glare

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    Yeah hopefully when these guys get old somebody returns the favor...
     
  17. fadeaway

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    My execution preference list:

    1. Guillotine -- I love the guillotine. One quick slice and it's all over. Just make sure the blade is sharp and heavy enough to go all the way through on the first swipe.

    2. Firing Squad -- Quick. Not quite as pain free as the guillotine but not bad, especially if all shots hit the heart simultaneously.

    3. Electric Chair -- Painful, but in my opinion still better than the following options.

    4. Hanging -- Being hanged terrifies me. Although quick if done correctly, there's something about the idea of a rope tightening around my neck that freaks me out.

    5. Lethal Injection -- Slow and excrutiatingly painful. The anticipation/awareness must be horrible.



    ??. Gas Chamber -- I don't know much about this option. Does breathing in the gas hurt? Does it take long to die?
     
  18. Fatty FatBastard

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    All I know is, if I had my choice, it'd have to be purification. Might as well go out in style.
     
  19. CBrownFanClub

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    San Francisco. I have heard Houston SPCA is a little rough. We took a kitten down there, and the handler totally provoked it and handled badly, and the kitten swatted back, and she acted like the kitten was out of control -- and they put them down if they are violent. But this kitten was total self-defense. I was thinking if she got a job here, who exactly did they turn down for her position? Ted Nugent's references didn't check out?

    The San Francisco SPCA would knock your socks off. It so animal-friendly it's almost hilarious. It's more the vibe of the place, which is 1960's flower power meets Queer Eye styling, and very loving in that sorta old-lady-with-a-kitten-tshirt way. I went to donate some cat food once, that our cats did not like, and they were so syrupy happy and grateful and nice. It was funny and comforting to know A) these animals were in good hands B) these people had found somewhere to utilize themselves. The arrangement was fortuitous for all parties involved.

    Lotsa places out here in SF like that. Some amazing old folks homes, care facilities and so forth. The homeless problem is getting better - still bad, but better - but there is a serious committment to treating sufferring with respect, animal, human, etc. It's pretty amazing. It can go overboard -- there is some facist left-wing stuff, but mostly across the bay in Berkeley, which is too much for me. We did have to apply for a permit to remove a dead tree from our own property, and our neighbors had to approve the tree's removal -- but for the most part, that hassle is a small price to pay. That err-on-the-side-of-over-respect for fellow creatures is my favorite thing about San Francisco by a mile.
     
  20. Desert Scar

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    I thought of the Guillotine too. Defintely quick and relatively painless compared to other methods.

    I am against the death penalty as society/court/jury is bound to make unrevokable mistakes. Government nor anyone else should have power legitimized. Now if a murder or rapist chooses to die rather than life in prison, I have no problem assisting in that.

    But if I was going to be executed, what about being dropped out of plane at 10000K feet over the ocean. At least you get a nice view with clean air and instantanous, pain free end.

    Or why not just being locked into a garage with a car left on?

    Regardless the method though, when humans understand what is happening (count down of their time on the executioner's hands) no matter the method you can't take our the inhumanity of it, IMO.
     

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