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Does Yao have the best baseline spin drive in the league?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by DeAleck, Mar 10, 2005.

  1. fa7999

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    Totally agree. It's hard to imagine that guards do a series of spin moves from the 3 point line to the paint for a dunk without getting their shots blocked by taller help defenders.
     
  2. meh

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    I don't think Yao has a good spin move. He just doesn't have the quickness. However, the spin move is good enough because it's only a complementary move to his hook and turnaround jumper. He's simply capable of catching his opponent off guard occasionally with the move. But it's hardly something he can use consistently.
     
  3. DeAleck

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    Well, this is a more responsible post than your first one in this thread. Yao not even in top 100 for spin drives??? We are not seeing players do them because they choose not to?

    Tell you what, in the past two days, I just developed a spin that's top 5 in the NBA. You'll never see it, because I am not in the NBA to show it. But it's top 5.
     
  4. choujie

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    Some players don't do spin move often or they didn't do it this season, but that doesn't mean they can't do it. Danny Fortson hasn't dunked once this season(surprised?) doesn't mean he can't dunk. Sura only dunked twice this season doesn't mean he can't dunk either. To say there is only a handful of people who can do a spin move is like saying only a handful of the NBA players can dunk. It's maybe hard for some fans, but not hard for NBA players, very basic stuff.

    Yao's spin move is nice for his size, and you all know I'm a big fan of Yao. But be realistic, to say his spin moves are the best in the league is seriously underrating other NBA players. He doesn't even have the best spin move on Rockets, Tmac does.

    Best among centers? Best among guys 7'2 and above? I'll agree with that.

    Again, Shaq does have a spin move, I've seen that. He gets the ball closer to the rim than Yao, so it requires less dribble, but still it's a spin and dribble to the hoop.
     
  5. Pass 1st shoot 2nd

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    Nope. He doesn't. That belongs to Kevin Garnett.
     
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    KG definetely is up there.
     
  7. BigM

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    so basically your saying that if you have a spin move and you're in the nba then it HAS to be better then yao's. where's your logic? you just proved everyone else's point. all 400+ nba players might have a spin move but if they're not using them what is your point of saying that they're better then yao's. i guarantee that there are not 99 more EFFECTIVE spin moves then yao's. it is not possible.

    sura and fortson may both be able to dunk but there's a reason they don't do it. they're not that good at it. have you seen fortson jump at all? he can't. they're not hiding some amazing jumping ability, just like all these guys aren't hiding amazing spin moves.
     
  8. ucansee2020

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    Yao's spin move may look slow, but it's very effective. There may be some surprise factors in it, but I think it's because Yao is so big and he does not need to spin fast and plenty to get to the basket and dunk it. The move may not look as pretty and fast as others but it's still very effective because of his size.
     
  9. DeAleck

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    To me, it looks fast and pretty...
     
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    The thing is it just looks so incredible when Yao does it because he's such a big mofo. When he makes moves like this around the basket it reminds me a lot of hakeem.
     
  11. fa7999

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    That's quite bogus.
     
  12. choujie

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    Here is my logic: Short players have an advantage on their spin moves because of low center gravity and quick feet. That makes the move a lot quicker. They just didn't have a chance to show it because of the play set. They are the ones who shoot jumpers instead of post up. It's not that they can't, but they are not asked to do so, in JVG's team, they may not allowed to do so when Yao is in the post.

    Another reason is short players can have a better move but eventually get blocked more often because they are short. So they choose not to do so.

    If there is a spin moves contest for all NBA players, I won't bet my money on Yao to be in top 100. He's just too tall and too slow compare to most of the players.
     
  13. DeAleck

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    I am telling you it's true. I will never show it, but my spin is soooooooo good. Better than Yao's (just like all those 100 other NBA players choujie was refering to) for sure.
     
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    That's right. His is one of the most effective players AFTER he made a successful move because of his size. The move itself isn't the best.
     
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    I just tried a new spin move on my yard and it involves that I spin from midcourt all the way to under the hoop and finish the slam using a fingertip.

    Nobody. I repeat nobody in the history of the NBA can do that! If this is not the top one, I don't know where the justice is.
     
  16. choujie

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    You know what? I might believe you if you say you have a better spin move than Yao or you say you run faster than Yao. I certainly may belive you if you say you have more vertical than Yao. But if you say you are a better basketball player or you can score better than Yao after those moves, then it's a whole differenet story.:)
     
  17. DeAleck

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    No, the justice is here!!! Right here with with me right now!!!

    I am doing a spin I just invented as I am typing.

    Look, look...

    ...

    Oh my goodness, did you see that??? I just did a figure-skating spin in the air (2674 degrees according to my calculation), went up in the air and jammed the ball along with this keyword. It was awesome! You want justice, you got justice! BTW, I am still in the air...

    ...

    OK, I just landed...
     
  18. DeAleck

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    Thank you so much for believing me. I really, I mean really, can spin past Duncan and Fortson and go in for a dunk. I do have better spin than Yao!
     
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    To even be considered in any "top 100" stat it would usually require a minimum number of attepts or makes.. I'm sure Yao would rank high in attempts and also in makes. If all the other 100+ nba players were good at the spin move they would use it more often. Today, Yao probably has one of the best spin moves because he is of the few who is uses it. If people aren't using that move then it doesn't exist, in a statistical sense.

    Tyson Chandler is #1 at flipping off the ref this season.

    I'm sure Rasheed Wallace or Francis could battle that but since they aren't doing that this season then they don't matter and can't be considered as one of the best "ref flipper offers" this season :D
     
  20. BigM

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    yes and your logic still makes no sense. apparently you're more interested in a quick spin move then one that actually gets you points. so 99 players in the NBA have a quicker spin move then yao? i'l buy that, but speed does not equate to effectiveness, as you said yourself. so if it's not effective, no matter how fast it is, it's crap. there are not 99 people in the nba that have a better baseline spin move in the nba then yao ming. that's a fact.
     

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