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Does Yao deserve a max contract?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by #1draftpik, Jan 15, 2005.

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  1. Charvo

    Charvo Member

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    You seriously think I am a hater? Why does a hater try to make logical, constructive comments rather than resort to childish and absurd comments that most haters do? There's a difference between objective and biased, and I am objective.
     
  2. snowmt01

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    Would you give Amare the max? Great stats, but I doubt he's
    a Franchise player. Would Yao lead a team with Marion and Joe
    Johnson + Q to losing record? Suns had a sub-0.5 record after
    the all-star break last season even Amare averaged 25+/10+.
    Now without Nash they look like the Rockets in November,
    maybe even worse
     
  3. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    No, you're a broken record.
     
  4. lalala902102001

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    The real question should be: Will Yao Ming get a max contract from the Houston Rockets?

    And the answer is yes.
     
  5. looper

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    Let’s assume JVG stays with ROX the whole season, and Yao has a horrible season (I am not assuming there is any connection between these 2 assumptions *wink*) for argument sakes.

    Then it seems like Yao don’t deserve a Max contract anymore, even if CD offers it. Then would Yao stay with Rox? I am just guessing, that Yao being a nice (honorable) person he is, he might just decline it if he thinks he doesn’t deserve it. He might just rather start somewhere else, just to get out the funky mood, and start it over fresh. If I get enough money from endorsements, I would.
     
  6. GRENDEL

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    That would be a first, I don't think he's going to turn down the money, for the most part players take the money when offered.

    To be honest if his season goes down hill, which I don't think will happen, and the Roxs still offer the Max. Contract I say he grabs it and thanks his lucky stars they paid it him.

    Like I said, I don't think the rest of the season will be like this funk of the last couple games.
     
  7. looper

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    Really Hope it wont
     
  8. fa7999

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    Will Yao be offered a max deal from the Rockets? Yes.

    Will other teams offer Yao a max if they can get Yao? Yes, they will.

    Will Yao accept the deal from the Rockets? He can, but no one is 100% sure even if Yao himself especially in Yao's case where he makes more by endorsements.
     
  9. GRENDEL

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    You gotta have faith. I personally think that when Yao turns it around and if we keep playing the way we are now, then we are going to a team to reckon with, patience and a little faith.
     
  10. looper

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    I agree it will be the first, and most likely he will take it.

    Maybe I am an idealist, I wouldn’t take the title (money) if I don’t deserve it, and letting people mock on me year after year, I would rather prove it first, (I guess for Yao, it means prove it somewhere else), and then get the contract fair and square. That is what I believe in life, code and honor baby!

    Then again, who am I. like Jordan said, NBA ballers are also business men, they make business decisions, same as Yao’s agent.
     
  11. ragingFire

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    You claim you are objective, but you are not. You are selective. You chose the best games of Steve's careers and Yao's so-so games to make a point.
    Dismissing the regular season and claiming Steve as clutch because it is the play-offs is also selective reasoning. Did Bird or Magic or Jordan save it for the play-offs? Another thing, whom did Steve play against and whom did Yao play against in the play-offs?

    Steve played well in last year play-off but I wouldn't bet on him being a leader to take a team to a championship either.
     
  12. Charvo

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    I just made a mention of playoff success and failure because there have been instances of professional athletes basically caving in mentally after poor playoff performances.

    I was a big Yao fan last season because I thought he was truly the future of the Rockets even though I considered the Herschel Walker scenario many times, and I thought he was going to be a killer coming into this season. Now I know he is not mentally strong enough to a leader. I am quite apprehensive of the Rockets giving out bad contracts. I said many times last season that Steve had the potential to be a massive salary albatross. You know what I'm afraid of? I'm afraid that this team is going to be like the Astros with people b****ing after every loss about how much Jeff Bagwell's huge salary is ruining the team. Every Astros fan knows that the Astros aren't going anywhere until that monstrous salary is off the books. People already b**** every day about how Mo's contract is untradeable. I would rather have that not be the case with Yao. NBA championship contenders must be able effective allocate salary well since there is a salary cap with a luxury tax threshold (which Les Alexander specifically said he will not go past). What if Yao gets the max contract more because of his marketing than his on-court production? It could be another rerun of the Bagwell nightmare, and TMac's talents will have been wasted with no rings. I'd hope to see Yao come out there and show why he deserves the max contract with his on-court production. The ball is in Yao's hands. He can either fumble it away or score.
     
  13. JPM0016

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    I take it you didn't watch any Astros baseball in 04? :confused:
     
  14. TMac640

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    Yao doesnt deserve anything....i dont agree that he should get what he gets now....HES AWEFUL...............i mean he is letting guards take the ball away from him...when he shows me something then i guess we could give him more money
     
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    Welcome to the bandwagon, our new Tmac Only Fan (TMOF) ;)
     
  16. RareAir

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    I think the cardinal rule in basketball is to build around the big man. Look at Miami, then look at LA. Granted Yao's not Shaq, and perhaps will never be......but a big man that can score at his size is something to build around. Keeping him here until he's 30 and having T-mac till he's in his 30's and building around them will make this team a contender soon enough.
    Takes a little patience, hell it took Dream 10 years to get his ring.
     
  17. Toast

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    Given his size & the position he plays, yes, Yao will get a max contract.

    Now we just gotta make him earn his keep!
     
  18. adai

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    I'm pretty sure Yao will get a Max contract anyway. if Rox is not willing to offer, someone else will.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    Yao deserves a max contract, and he should be a Rocket for life!
     
  20. Charvo

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    Astros wasted their best opportunity to win a World Series in 1998. It wasn't 2004. It was 1998. I gave up on that team after the 1998 choke job by Bagwell and Biggio.

    The Astros have been hampered by Bagwell's salary for many years. This is part of the reason why Gerry Hunsicker resigned. He is a smart guy.
     

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